View Full Version : No dairy? (my thoughts and some links)

Sam Fold
06-01-2007, 11:37 AM
Ive recently read a few websites that basically detail why humans should not drink milk/eat dairy products.



Basically the conclusion is as such, humans are not supposed to be drinking milk. Most of the eastern world are all lactose intolerant. ie: We have the capability as children to digest milk (from our mothers) and at around 5 or 6 we lost that ability. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_intolerance#Lactose_intolerance_by_group)

In fact, a majority of humans in the world are lactose intolerant.

It has only been in recent years that a genetic mutation in western countries has allowed humans to carry on drinking milk throughout their lives.

Now, what is milk for?

Baby humans and animals drink milk. No full grown animals drink milk naturally. Its a specialized substance designed to help young animals. Each "mother" has specialized milk for its species.

Cow's milk is PERFECT for BABY COWS.

Cats milk is PERFECT for BABY CATS

Humans milk is PERFECT for HUMAN BABIES.

For some reason, we have let these facts slide and now humans drink a substance which has been designed by nature to make baby cows grow nice and fat!

We are sold milk based on advertising by the companies that make billions from selling milk. Hell yeah they're going to say we need to drink a pint a day!

Worse still, cows milk is full of hormones. (designed for baby cows). It's well known that hormones can seriously cause weird and bad effects when they're not needed.

For example, many women notice their skin is worse at certain periods of the month.

Since quitting dairy myself, my skin has been in a much better state. Ive also felt less bloated and my nose has felt much less stuffy and breathing has been clearer.

It makes so much sense to me when I understand how we've been sold a lie.

Would you drink dogs milk?

Cats milk?

Rats milk?

All of these are designed for their specific species, by thousands of years of evolution. And even more specifically for the babies of that species.

Rant over :)

Make up your own minds..

Chris Forbis
06-01-2007, 11:52 AM
For the most part, I think you are preaching to the choir...

Steve Shafley
06-01-2007, 11:53 AM
I think that's bullshit and that apparently the majority of those of white, European descent CAN digest milk in adulthood.

I think it needs a flow chart with the first question being "Can you drink milk and experience no GI distress?" and go on from there. If the answer is "No" then you have your restriction...however, I know some folks who claim to be lactose intolerant, yet eat yogurt, ice cream, and cheese without a problem.

I can drink milk without a problem, only I am not very fond of it. I do frequently include yogurt, cottage cheese, and regular cheese in my daily menu.

Folks can go on and on about subtle changes in body chemistry and not, but if you just want to throw it into the "Black Box", then start with the above question.

Robb Wolf
06-01-2007, 12:22 PM
If one is going to consume dairy I'd really like to see the grassfed as the source...tough to come by however.

I think dairy can be problematic for many. Cordain has a nice analysis of the pro's and cons.

Troy Archie
06-07-2007, 07:23 AM
Just a note; Lactose is a sugar. Cheese has no sugar therefore no lactose. Cottage cheese and yogurt do unless they've been put through some lactose altering methods...

I thought I read that raw unpasteurized milk contains no lactose...

Robb Wolf
06-07-2007, 09:58 AM
lactose content can vary from cheese to cheese...milk of whatever variety will have lactose unless a lactase is added.

Mike ODonnell
06-07-2007, 10:18 AM
Dairy, cheese, etc....Highly acidic...promotes ill health....that and makes me too mucousy....not attractive