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Greg Battaglia
07-12-2007, 01:40 PM
What are the dangers of prescription antibiotics? How do these dangers compare , if at all, to natural antibiotics like garlic? Also, if one chooses to avoid prescription antibiotics for health reasons what alternative can be used to eliminate infections (ie spider bite, pneumonia, STD's, etc)? Thanks

Paul Findley
07-12-2007, 02:06 PM
My own approach is to only take them when I think they are necessary, like I am really, really sick. I know too many people that get the common cold and run to their Dr. and come home with a bottle of antibiotics, for their virus infection.

We have kids and we have trained our pediatrician to give us a script when we *might* need them. Typically, our kids overcome whatever they had w/o filling it.

I think it's been a decade since I swallowed an antibiotic...knock on wood.

Greg Battaglia
07-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Paul, I agree. the reason i ask is because i currently just went through to courses of anti's for an infection that I got from a spider bite while riding in the woods. I never get anti's for common colds and stuff, no way. I mainly talking about more serious infections, are anti's a must in those cases?

Yael Grauer
07-12-2007, 03:00 PM
I have a book on herbal antibiotics by Stephen Buhner, iirc. Usnea is particularly good, but hard to process effectively.

If I had to take regular antibiotics, I'd be doing a lot of probiotics after.

I took the real thing when I got strep--the other stuff didn't work.

Paul Findley
07-12-2007, 03:21 PM
It seems to me that an oral antibiotic for a spider bite is a *bit* over the top.

I suspect a topical antibiotic could have been prescribed. The neurotoxin will do what it will do systemically, I suspect the antibiotic is about attempting to prevent infection of the bite site, which from what I understand can get pretty nasty depending on the type of vermin.

I am not a Dr. though.

Chris Forbis
07-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Greg-

I've talked with Dr. G about this one before and he advised hitting the probiotics pretty hard once one was done with the antibiotic course.

I got an antibiotic shot for a spider bite one time, pills another. The shot burns like crazy.

Mike ODonnell
07-12-2007, 05:11 PM
Spider bite?? Why do I hear "Darwin Awards" coming......

Greg Battaglia
07-12-2007, 05:27 PM
Yeah, the bite was pretty bad. My foot became incredibly swollen, so I don't exactly think my doc was misguided in prescribing anti's. He's not your typical doc, actually quite well versed in natural medicine. He actually did advise me to hit the probiotics after the anti's, he knows what's up.

Yael Grauer
07-12-2007, 06:52 PM
Out of curiousity--what kind of spider?

Greg Battaglia
07-12-2007, 10:05 PM
I could be completely off here, but I think I recall him referring to it as a red bull spider??? Or something to that effect. I didn't actually see the spider after it bit me, so he had to go by the appearance of the bite to determine the type.

Allen Yeh
07-13-2007, 03:48 AM
After seeing pictures of brown recluse spider bites I became very paranoid after that....http://www.emedicinehealth.com/images/4453/4453-4474-10729-25041.jpg

Mike ODonnell
07-14-2007, 07:47 AM
I could be completely off here, but I think I recall him referring to it as a red bull spider??? Or something to that effect. I didn't actually see the spider after it bit me, so he had to go by the appearance of the bite to determine the type.

I believe those spiders have "wings".....hold on....hold on....now you got that joke....

Robb Wolf
07-14-2007, 08:14 AM
If you have a raging infection they are your only hope to survive in many cases. Antibiotics and over/improperly used in many ways but people forget how easy it was to die from simple infections prior to penicillin.

Scott Kustes
07-14-2007, 10:00 AM
I think Robb nailed it. There are some cases where antibiotics are either essential or at least a very smart move. I was given an injection of antibiotics before my surgery a month ago. There was no way I was going to reject having antibiotics for worry over my intestinal bacteria and risk picking up an infection....I just superloaded with probiotics starting the next day. I wouldn't trust using herbal antibiotics in such a situation. On the other hand, some people run to the doctor for a Z-pack every other week.