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Mark Joseph Limbaga
07-28-2007, 12:31 PM
here's the link

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1650066&cr=bodybuilding

your opinions??

just by the looks of it... it runs parallel to EDT and you can also do a power bias version of WOD "Linda"

Steven Low
07-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Read that a couple of days ago. Definitely about focusing on those high threshold MUs. Pretty good stuff except for the exercise choice but then again it is mainly a BBing site.

Chad Waterbury is always a good read over there... as are a couple of others like Thibaudeau, Poliquin, new guy Scott Abel and a couple of others. Of course, there's some garbage there too... and it caters to BBing community. But overall the information is better than your traditional BBing stuff.

Steve Shafley
07-29-2007, 06:58 PM
Awful. Simply awful. It's beyond awful. It's shit, garbage, nonsense....I could go on and on, but I won't, for both your benefit and mine.

To be honest, I don't know where to begin when deconstructing Waterbury's latest string of drivel. All I can say it sucks, and that delving into the reasons why it sucks is far beyond what I care to do with my time right now.

Let me just start, though, by saying Waterbury is taking lots of credit for old ideas (most of which, incidentally, didn't pan out real well in real world results). And that his little textbook plagiarisms about neurology are pathetic, limited, and seemingly only put into the article for the purpose of making him seem smarter than my boxer dog, Chewbacca.

And Abel?

My one liner with regards to Scott Abel showing up on T-Mag is "Something Wicked This Way Comes". Why would I say that? Forget it. Abel is writing for T-Mag because he's going to be finishing up a few projects and wants to SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!

Thib, at least, has been starting to write some decent, if basic, articles, at least compared to the useless junk about bodybuilding he's been writing.

Here's how the latest crop of gurus seem to be writing their articles:

1. Blow off dust on "Supertraining"
2. Open to random page
3. Write article on that topic, claim it's new and innovative!

ASTONISHING!

Steve Liberati
07-29-2007, 07:24 PM
Reading t-mag these days is similar to cheating on your wife with some dirty whore.The Journals (CrossFit and PM) is your nice, beautiful wife and t-mag is that hot, slutty chick at the bar....you know she's garbage but every so often your curiosity gets the best of ya and you make the wrong decision. Then you swear yourself up and down the next day vouching you will never resort to that filth again.

Steve Shafley
07-29-2007, 07:37 PM
Using that metaphor, my dick's fallen off.

Steve Liberati
07-29-2007, 07:49 PM
Using that metaphor, my dick's fallen off.

LoL

Steven Low
07-29-2007, 09:01 PM
lol. Say what you will... I just take concepts from them that I haven't read anywhere else. If I knew where else to search for them I would, haha. :P

Mark Joseph Limbaga
07-29-2007, 11:59 PM
Awful. Simply awful. It's beyond awful. It's shit, garbage, nonsense....I could go on and on, but I won't, for both your benefit and mine.

To be honest, I don't know where to begin when deconstructing Waterbury's latest string of drivel. All I can say it sucks, and that delving into the reasons why it sucks is far beyond what I care to do with my time right now.

Let me just start, though, by saying Waterbury is taking lots of credit for old ideas (most of which, incidentally, didn't pan out real well in real world results). And that his little textbook plagiarisms about neurology are pathetic, limited, and seemingly only put into the article for the purpose of making him seem smarter than my boxer dog, Chewbacca.

And Abel?

My one liner with regards to Scott Abel showing up on T-Mag is "Something Wicked This Way Comes". Why would I say that? Forget it. Abel is writing for T-Mag because he's going to be finishing up a few projects and wants to SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!

Thib, at least, has been starting to write some decent, if basic, articles, at least compared to the useless junk about bodybuilding he's been writing.

Here's how the latest crop of gurus seem to be writing their articles:

1. Blow off dust on "Supertraining"
2. Open to random page
3. Write article on that topic, claim it's new and innovative!

ASTONISHING!


In a way this is in line with my premise that many people are just starting to figure out the method behind the madness of many old Soviet training methods.

And sadly, in like with what Steve is saying, many others will continue to sell out in the process.

Steve Shafley
07-30-2007, 05:36 AM
If you want to delve into what's gone before, try these:

Supertraining...either the joint Siff/Verkhoshansky text or the later Siff only text.

The Science and Practice of Strength Training by Zatsiorski

Fitness and Strength Training for All Sports Theory Methods Programs by Hartmann and Tunnemann

The Weightlifting Encyclopedia by Art Dreschler

The assorted Soviet texts translated by Bud Charniga, from Sportnivy Press

Theory and Application of Modern Strength and Power Methods by Christian Thibaudeau isn't bad either...good overview of lots of things.

Bill Starr's books. Tommy Kono's book.

Mike ODonnell
07-30-2007, 07:19 AM
Waterbury is taking lots of credit for old ideas (most of which, incidentally, didn't pan out real well in real world results). And that his little textbook plagiarisms about neurology are pathetic, limited, and seemingly only put into the article for the purpose of making him seem smarter than my boxer dog, Chewbacca.

and now we have come to the old saying "Nothing new in fitness industry"....just people recycling old ideas to put a new spin on "their" training to sell their instant internet fitness celebrity expertise and E-books....I have just accepted it and moved on...but alas at least once in a while you may have access to info from some other source you may not ever read....but I am not going to go around giving anyone credit for any ideas as pretty much noone has an original thought nowadays.....I mean except for the Hindu squat guy (I dare not say his name...his wrath is too much for me...). Not only that...most people seem to flip-flop in their own philosophies anyways...so each E-book contradicts the other.....nice.....low reps...high reps...slow contractions...fast contractions....lift in a clown suit...no wait a scuba suit....and on and on....

and how cool is calling your dog "Chewbacca",,,,get a cat and call it BobaFet and then yell "Chewbacca......go get Bobafet...."...Ahhhhh fun....

Steve Shafley
07-30-2007, 07:37 AM
dude! are you drunk!

Mike ODonnell
07-30-2007, 07:50 AM
dude! are you drunk!

quite possibly.....now off to work on my article for T-nation so I can sell my latest project..."The Irish High Intensity Workout"....start at home with a stop watch...and go....run to bar....get drunk....hit on women at bar....run from their boyfriends....run from the cops....get home.....lose keys....climb through window on 2nd story.....and time....

Steven Low
07-30-2007, 08:09 AM
If you want to delve into what's gone before, try these:

Supertraining...either the joint Siff/Verkhoshansky text or the later Siff only text.

The Science and Practice of Strength Training by Zatsiorski

Fitness and Strength Training for All Sports Theory Methods Programs by Hartmann and Tunnemann

The Weightlifting Encyclopedia by Art Dreschler

The assorted Soviet texts translated by Bud Charniga, from Sportnivy Press

Theory and Application of Modern Strength and Power Methods by Christian Thibaudeau isn't bad either...good overview of lots of things.

Bill Starr's books. Tommy Kono's book.

Thanks. I'll have to search the internet though cause I'm poor. :)