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Derek Simonds
08-15-2007, 04:22 PM
I did 1 Arm snatch and C/J today with my non dominant hand since my dominant hand is broken. I did a power version which is what I mostly see demonstrated with KB and DB's. Do people do full squat snatches with DB's as a regular part of training or do most people stick with the power versions?

I was very surprised with my performance. I have snatched a 52 LB KB for multiples but haven't really done any DB snatches. I started with 35 LB's and worked up to 60 LB's X 2 with no trouble at all. In fact when I switched to C/J's I went back down to 50 LB's and was going to work back up but I was less comfortable with the C/J than I was with the snatch. Some of the uncomfortableness was probably with how the weight was coming to my shoulder.

I really enjoyed the DB power snatch and will add that to my training when I am healed.

Anyone else playing with these?

josh everett
08-15-2007, 05:05 PM
I used to do allot of DB power snathces before i got KB's. I really like the movement.

Dave Van Skike
08-15-2007, 05:08 PM
I love them. I have used them as a warm up to progressive pulls and as a stand alone. intuitive way to learn explosive lifts

Chuck Kechter
08-15-2007, 06:30 PM
I love 'em...

And like you I can snatch more with a DB than a KB (for me, so far, I think, it's a technical issue on the KB snatch).

Good stuff!

James Evans
08-16-2007, 02:44 AM
I built up to 38 kg snatches with dbs earlier this year. I'm a kitten with my kbs though. The 25kg sucks the life out of me (and normally smashes into the ceiling if I don't train outside).

Something I've mentioned before on here is an idea I got from Ross Enamait:

DB Press 1 rep
DB Push Press 1 rep
DB Snatch 1 rep

Obviously you can build on that with overhead lunges etc. I do that a lot particularly at my parent's house were I have 'nothing' but a 22kg db, a tractor tire, a keg full of water and a lot of land to play with.

Allen Yeh
08-16-2007, 06:46 AM
I love 'em...

And like you I can snatch more with a DB than a KB (for me, so far, I think, it's a technical issue on the KB snatch).

Good stuff!

Same here, I've had a 24KG KB for a bit now but I just prefer the DB version. I still occasionally don't do the "punching thing" correctly and end up with some bruised forearms.

I basically need to focus on bringing up my KB technique up but thus far haven't put the time in yet.

Eric Jones
08-16-2007, 10:43 AM
I love both DB and KB snatches and use both often in our CrossFit classes and for my own training. I'm a bit biased towards KBs though for conditioning since I do a lot of heavy barbell snatches and the KB snatches "flow" from rep to rep much easier.

They are really two different movements. The DB snatch is vertical (just like the barbell version) while the KB snatch is rotational (its essentially a very high swing with a lockout at the top). The hip action is very similar in both movements but they are very different.

Allen Yeh
08-16-2007, 12:57 PM
They are really two different movements. The DB snatch is vertical (just like the barbell version) while the KB snatch is rotational (its essentially a very high swing with a lockout at the top). The hip action is very similar in both movements but they are very different.

Not entirely true, you can do both kinds of snatch with the KB also the 2 variations I'm aware of are:

high pull kb snatch - similiar to the db snatch
swing kb snatch

Eric Jones
08-16-2007, 01:10 PM
I totally agree. Both variations can be performed with anything you can get your hands on, that's a quality of a "functional" movement. The issue is though, why would you want to? The risk for forearm and wrist injury is very high with the high-pull KB snatch. Just pick up a DB or a bar.

Allen Yeh
08-16-2007, 01:29 PM
I believe that's the style that Jason C. Brown advocates as well as the style used for GS.

Chuck Kechter
08-17-2007, 10:53 AM
I believe that's the style that Jason C. Brown advocates as well as the style used for GS.

It is GS that I am attempting to learn/train (along with training/coaching MMA), from one of V. Federenko's coaches...It's fun, and a lung-burner, but the learning curve compared to DBs is ridiculous...

Derek Simonds
08-17-2007, 03:22 PM
I saw the videos jason c brown did about the different types of kb snatches and all I have ever done is the vertical style. I need to learn the swing style. Is it much harder to master?

Chuck Kechter
08-18-2007, 11:09 AM
It may be just me... But I think the swing-snatch is way easier than the GS "style" snatch.

But that might just be me... **shrugs**