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Rob Harris
08-17-2007, 05:13 AM
http://www.thepaleodiet.com/nutritional_tools/acid.shtml

I like to think I'm reading this correctly. It shows both coffee and beer as base or alkaline producing foods. Sweet. :D

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Ale Dileo
08-17-2007, 05:40 AM
oh well, ... red wine is even better!:D

Mike ODonnell
08-17-2007, 06:44 AM
Draft beer sucks....unless it is Guinness of course.

Funny...I would of guessed Coke, coffee and beer to be more acidic, like shown below....Not that this is medically proven...but an interesting chart to compare to...
http://www.naturalhealthschool.com/acid-alkaline.html

Rob Harris
08-17-2007, 07:02 AM
Draft beer sucks....unless it is Guinness of course.

Funny...I would of guessed Coke, coffee and beer to be more acidic, like shown below....Not that this is medically proven...but an interesting chart to compare to...
http://www.naturalhealthschool.com/acid-alkaline.html

I have to disagree on this one. I enjoy the occasional Sierra Nevada or Sweetwater 420 on draft, although it has been a while.

William Hunter
08-17-2007, 09:33 AM
I can't believe they don't have tequila on that list. Inquiring minds want to know!

In the meantime, I can keep myself quite satisfied on coffee and beer.

Scott Kustes
08-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Draft beer sucks....unless it is Guinness of course.
You really need to try more good draft beer then. Especially if you think Guinness is the pinnacle. Delicious? Yes. The best beer ever? Far from it. American Piss-water Beers (Bud, Miller, Coors, etc) suck no matter the delivery method.

Allen Yeh
08-17-2007, 10:28 AM
American Piss-water Beers (Bud, Miller, Coors, etc) suck no matter the delivery method.

I have thus far been unimpressed by the beers in Italy. They remind me of miller lite. The wine is a whole different matter.

Mike ODonnell
08-17-2007, 11:19 AM
You really need to try more good draft beer then. Especially if you think Guinness is the pinnacle. Delicious? Yes. The best beer ever? Far from it. American Piss-water Beers (Bud, Miller, Coors, etc) suck no matter the delivery method.

Unless it is a micro brew or a tap at the source (brewery)....I don't drink drafts or that other piss water unless I am at the college bar with pitchers are $1 and I have $5 in my pocket....I agree Sierra Nevada is tasty....I like Sweetwater too since it is brewed here....

Scott Kustes
08-17-2007, 11:53 AM
Those $1 pitcher nights can be fun. Getting blind drunk cheaply is the only excuse for drinking American light beers.

Robb Wolf
08-20-2007, 11:33 AM
I have to disagree on this one. I enjoy the occasional Sierra Nevada or Sweetwater 420 on draft, although it has been a while.

Rob-
If you make it to Chico I will buy you some Sierra Nevada from the source!

Rob Harris
08-20-2007, 12:51 PM
Rob-
If you make it to Chico I will buy you some Sierra Nevada from the source!

Deal!!1

Brian Shanks
08-21-2007, 12:20 PM
This beverage list is a more extensive then the one at paleo:
http://www.goutpal.com/food-for-gout.html

During the summer I like Peroni. It isn't a heavy beer by any means, but I don't like heavy beers in the summer.

Cheers

Bri

chris hill
08-22-2007, 05:54 AM
Peroni is lovely, although finding it on tap here in the UK is like searching for the holy grail.

Brian Shanks
08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Well I did have the distinct unpleasure of trying it on tap last week.
Unfortunately it was very flat and unenjoyable. I should have complained to our waitress, but the place was filling up and we where leaving soon.

Flat tap beer is the worst no matter the brand.

Bri

TomFurman
08-22-2007, 09:03 PM
I like what Dan John said. Caveman didn't drink coffee, but if they did,... they would like it.

Tom Furman

Declan Cockburn
09-20-2007, 03:47 PM
You really need to try more good draft beer then. Especially if you think Guinness is the pinnacle. Delicious? Yes. The best beer ever? Far from it. American Piss-water Beers (Bud, Miller, Coors, etc) suck no matter the delivery method.Agreed agreed and agreed. I'm Irish, I live 5 mins from the Guinness brewery. And though I love the stuff (especially the special export which we don't get here), most Belgian beers beat it hand down. Duvel, Chimay, Leffe, Hoegaarden. The trappist ales, the Krieks (cherry beers), Framboises the Tripels etc. ad infinitum.

BTW it's not just the US that make pisswater beers. Heinekin, Carlsberg, Kronenberg, Harp, even Belgium's Stella Artois falls into that category. The only one of them I would (not that I do drink extensively anymore) would be Becks, and that's only because it's brewed according to the Reinheitsgebot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinheitsgebot).

Also, in spite of 700 years of oppression, I'll give the brits one thing, they make some damn good ales...
http://www.eurobrews.com/hobpage/The%20famous%20Hobgoblin%20Strong%20Dark%20Ale%20f rom%20The%20Wychwood%20Brewery_files/adverts_lager_boy_poster.jpg

God I'm such a beer snob... I miss it so

Mike ODonnell
09-21-2007, 09:12 AM
I live 5 mins from the Guinness brewery.

You lucky lucky bastard........sighhhhhhhh :D

Ben Blosch
09-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you. For the Stella Artois comment.

That stuff is awful, and people drink it just so they can look like they know what they're doing with beer. They don't know anything.

Sorry, it's one of the things I get more passionate about. People who drink Stella just piss me off.

Scott Kustes
09-22-2007, 10:32 AM
So I was in Canada last weekend and the first place I went had Moosehead, Blue, and all the crappy American beers. Knowing that the Bud Light-esque beers taste like chilled urine (or as I imagine chilled urine would taste) and Blue isn't my cup o' brew, I opted for a Moosehead. I can now vote Moosehead as a flavorless Canadian Piss-water beer. It has a slightly better flavor than a Bud Light/Select, Miller Light, etc but all in all was extremely disappointing and I only drank it cause I paid $5 for it. I've never had Stella...I will now avoid it.

Garrett Smith
09-22-2007, 04:40 PM
I will be cheating tonight on a "stout milkshake":

Equal parts stout and vanilla ice cream, blended.

For the beer, I'm getting a double chocolate stout (I can't remember the brewery), the ice cream is Ben & Jerry's. The place I learned about it (Four Peaks Brewery in Tempe) uses their oatmeal stout.

I'm going to go put the blender jar in the freezer right now...

Scott Kustes
09-23-2007, 05:31 AM
Holy smokes Dr. G. You might've just found a nice use for one of my favorite beers....Young's Oatmeal Stout or Young's Double Chocolate Stout. Why did you do this to me? You could have just kept that to yourself.

Garrett Smith
09-23-2007, 08:05 AM
I could have kept it to myself, Scott...

But how else are people supposed to get their antioxidants and calcium at the same time?!? ;-)

I think it was the Young's DC stout that I wanted to use...didn't have the time to get it last night (nor did I want chocolate & sugar too close to bed), so I got the Samuel Smith's oatmeal stout and I'm making it around lunchtime today as a PWO drink...

Be wary of the meal you combine it with...it's a heavy drink that can throw a wrench in digesting a big meal...

Yael Grauer
09-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Why is it that Bud and Bud Light make me sick to my stomach (we're talking a stomachache after like half a beer) but I can drink other beers like Heineken?

This is not a rhetorical question; just don't feel like researching.

Scott Kustes
09-24-2007, 05:33 AM
Ok, Dr. G., so what's the recipe? Do you use vanilla ice cream? How much ice cream and beer? I'm going to have to make this....it will go down nicely after a killer sprint workout. What do you use for protein?

Garrett Smith
09-24-2007, 05:48 AM
Scott,
The recipe is in the earlier post.

Equal parts ice cream (vanilla, I used 16 oz. Ben & Jerry's Fair Trade Vanilla) and stout (I used 16 oz. of Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout). This big of a shake was split among three people, but I could have had it all to myself.

Freezing the blender jar beforehand will make for a thicker shake. I also went a bit wild and added a big spoon of almond butter (for thickness, I like thick shakes) and a bit of chocolate syrup (to sweeten it a bit).

If you want to add protein, that's up to you, it's definitely not in the recipe. Obviously, I'd use whey, so it would "mix" flavors better.

Scott Kustes
09-24-2007, 07:35 AM
Ahh...huked on fonix werked fur me. I think I can pull that off. Not sure if B&J's is sold around here, but other premium brands are. It probably doesn't need protein as ice cream and beer is obviously a complete meal.

Scotty Hagnas
09-24-2007, 09:37 AM
These work very well as floats, too. Mug of thick, dark stout - top with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. Delicious...

Frank Needham
09-24-2007, 10:13 AM
You're all sick....I love it.

Garrett Smith
09-24-2007, 05:35 PM
I think Paleo IFing makes people really enjoy their cheats more, that's all...

My wife didn't enjoy the shake much, then again, she doesn't really like (mmmmm) beer... :-P

Yael Grauer
09-24-2007, 07:36 PM
Garrett,
Here's a good place for a local cheat meal (er, dessert)... I guarantee your wife will like something on the menu.
I go there when I'm taking friends out for post-workout snacks or if I want to grade papers all night. They also have game nights and books you can borrow.
Yumm....
http://www.somethingsweet-dl.com/Index_files/page0001.htm

Eric Kerr
09-24-2007, 08:35 PM
Forget the ice cream. ;)

Belfast Car Bomb

Guinness Stout - 1 pint
Bailey's Irish Cream - 1/2 oz.
Bushmill's Irish Wiskey - 1/2 oz.

Fill shot glass with 1/2 oz. of whiskey and the other half with Bailey's Irish cream. Then drop the shot glass into a pint of Guinness and chug.

(Warning! Do not substitute Jameson, you will regret it.)

Haven't tried it but I suppose you could substitute a good cinnamon ice cream for the Bailey's.

Yael Grauer
09-24-2007, 08:56 PM
How about amaretto and Sprite?

*ducking*

Scotty Hagnas
09-26-2007, 09:06 AM
I've had the "car bomb" a few times back in my biking party days. Tastes just like a thick, chocolate shake!

Garrett Smith
09-26-2007, 12:55 PM
Yael,
Thanks for the suggestion. Cori has a nose for those kind of places, we've already been there...I think she's more partial to Dairy Queen...

Scott Kustes
09-26-2007, 01:21 PM
Yeah, we call it an Irish Car Bomb. I've had many of them in my day. They are quite tasty and quite a kick in the rump.

Rob Harris
09-27-2007, 08:28 PM
I recently discovered these and they are FANTASTIC. "It's still brewed naturally using the century old top fermentation method and it still tastes great!

Sparkling Ale contains no additives or preservatives.

5.8% Alc/Vol "


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Mike ODonnell
09-28-2007, 05:39 AM
I need not say anything more than "tempered over burning witches"

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Derek Simonds
09-28-2007, 03:30 PM
Its Friday at 6:30 and I am heading to the liquor store to try either one of those beers. Cheers.

Garrett Smith
09-29-2007, 07:36 AM
Stone Brewery Smoked Porter. Sooooo good.

http://www.stonebrew.com/porter/

Scott Kustes
10-01-2007, 09:09 AM
Stone Brewery Smoked Porter. Sooooo good.

http://www.stonebrew.com/porter/
Hell yes! Dr. G, you have good taste in beer my friend. Arrogant Bastard Ale is another top notch selection from Stone.

Yael Grauer
10-01-2007, 09:47 AM
I drank Nimbus blonde ale and watched football on Saturday.

Oh, the things we do for love...

:cool:

Garrett Smith
10-02-2007, 06:06 PM
Scott,
I don't have the taste for super-hoppy beers, so Arrogant Bastard is a bit too much for me.

I do just like the way Stone does things in general.