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John Velandra
03-17-2008, 08:40 AM
Hi all!
I have a client that has vitiligo along with a ton of upper respiratory issues, neuro-muscular imbalances,weakness, etc..... just started my research on vitiligo, and it's issues, etc.

Any help out there???

Doc???

Garrett Smith
03-17-2008, 09:19 AM
John,
In naturopathic school, we're taught that when we have skin issues, the first place to look is the digestive system.

My first suggestion, based on the minimal stuff you have described, is to look for gluten intolerance. Your client can order their own lab from www.enterolab.com . I'd suggest the gluten stool test at minimum, and adding in the dairy/yeast/egg/soy portions if they are willing. Getting irritants out of the diet will help the most in the beginning. Feel free to Google "celiac vitiligo" or "gluten vitiligo" to find your client info on this.

A good solid dosing of probiotics can only help in this area as well. Feel free to have this person contact me (or look through my store) if they would like to get what I recommend.

A good CLO will always be of benefit, I can also help there.

John Velandra
03-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Thanks again!
I am constantly amazed by the wealth of knowledge and community CFit & brethren have... AND how much more I have to learn after doing this for so long. :mad:

I sent her contact info and link so I'm sure she will be in touch.

Regarding last person. She is back from the hospital, had some stents replaced and is back on the modified wod I have for her. She will be attending the diabetic workshop I teach and I'll keep you posted!

Robb Wolf
03-19-2008, 09:37 AM
John-
Vitiligo has a strong autoimmune component exacerbated by....insulin. Drop insulin levels and the progression will cease. Some folks have noted a recovery of the normal pigmentation with time, others not. There tends to be a high prevalence of Raynauds (a vascular condition that occurs when going from hot to cold environments ).

Search under "vitiligo and insulin/hyperinsulinism".

John Velandra
03-20-2008, 07:04 AM
Robb,
Thanks so much and I will indeed start my research.... now stop giving me more stuff to learn and unlearn!!! (JK) :D

At one point I actually thought I was up on my nutrition knowledge... LOL

Greg Battaglia
03-29-2008, 04:03 PM
Interesting!

I've had mild vitiligo on my left knee since about 4th grade. Kept getting worse through middle school and high school and stopped in high school (when I started eating healthier and exercising a lot. It never went away though. It's still there, but never gets worse. I also get Tinea in my abdominal region and on my shoulders quite regularly. I wonder if this has to do with digestion.

Garrett Smith
03-29-2008, 04:11 PM
Greg,
I have tinea versicolor myself. It gets more noticeable as the temperatures get warmer and/or when my diet becomes not-so low-carb...

I was told by a dermatologist a long time ago that some people are just sensitive to that particular issue. He said I would likely re-catch it every summer, even if I killed it off (which I think I did for two seasons, then gave up).

With my pregnant wife having carby food around all the time and spring starting in Tucson (which is really like slightly mild summer here), it's really starting to act up.

Greg Battaglia
03-29-2008, 05:56 PM
Interesting,
Tinea first appeared for me just this last year and it happened when I switched to a more Zonish macro ratio from a much lower carb diet. Could be the carbs since it was when it started getting cold, not hot, that it came. At any rate, it doesn't really bother me at all, maybe a little itching in the shoulders, but no biggy.

John Velandra
04-01-2008, 10:20 AM
Thanks for all the input. My friend'll be joining us soon and is also going the gluten-free route.:)

She's not seeing a ton of changes in stuff (feeling, etc), but most likely from having to undo a ton of lifetime habits and metabolic conditioning??

Garrett Smith
04-01-2008, 10:57 AM
John,
Trust and verify. Your friend may not be feeling much better due to not following guidelines as well as they think or say.

Also, serious nutrient deficiencies can be difficult to remedy through food alone, as foods are not as nutrient dense as they used to be.

Cathy Wilson
04-03-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm John's client with vitiligo. all the research I'm finding is all about repigmentation, when what I'm really interested in learning about is the mention of specific vitamin deficiencies - C, B1, Niacin, B12, Copper, Zinc, other B vitamins- and vitiligo. Is is all down to gluten? since I'm adopted i can't find out if the vitiligo is present in relatives, but I have had it over at least 50% of my body since I was 7. (great for puberty...). I have never had any GI discomfort or diarrhea issues, but i was diagnosed with a B12 deficiency (quite severe). I never had allergies as a kid. I was thin as a rail, and never gained any weight (until the freshman 20) and now I have no problem gaining weight. sigh. I developed terrible allergies and chronic sinus issues in Phoenix (pollution), and my health has deteriorated since then. they throw zyrtec at me, and flonase (can't use that stuff). neti pot has worked the best of anything, but in my job as a choral conductor I am increasingly not able to sing or demonstrate. I am starting on cod liver oil capsules for vitamin D (having stayed out of the sun since I was seven...). I am just throwing all this against the wall to see if it elicits any helpful advice.
thanks to whoever has ideas!
cathy wilson

Garrett Smith
04-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Cathy,
If you haven't corrected the diagnosed B12 deficiency, get that taken care of.

Sometimes cod liver oil capsules, depending on brand, aren't actually very high in vitamin D. I like the "Blue Ice Gold Therapeutics" CLO from Green Pastures (I take it and carry it in my office). I do think it could be helpful.

I do phone consultations if you are interested.

If you want to test yourself for gluten sensitivity, I highly suggest www.enterolab.com , while you're getting that you might as well get the other allergens they test for thrown in--dairy, eggs, soy, yeast.

I do believe that Robb's suggestion of insulin sensitivity potentially being a huge factor is likely correct as well.

Dietarily, this will mean:
Gluten-Free diet
Low carb diet (no artificial sweeteners!)
No nightshades (that's my own addition to the list)