Nick Wilson
03-22-2008, 11:03 AM
Hi,
First post here, sorry for the length! I’ve been lurking on this forum and at Crossfit.com for a long time and learned a lot already, and wanted a bit of potential advice regarding carbohydrate intake.
I’m a 32 year old male, 6’ 3” and 200lbs with about 15-18% body fat. I’m not particularly fit at the moment, but I’m working hard to rectify that with a mixture of a Starting Strength program and a couple of metcon workouts per week. I’m also a type 1 diabetic.
I recently read Bernstein’s writings on diabetic control, and I adopted his diet a fortnight ago with excellent results; my bloods have been the best I’ve ever seen, consistently in the normal range throughout the day and night. This diet means I’m getting 30g of carbs most days; the only way I go above that amount is if I go hypo and need carbs to raise my bloods. I’m eating mainly Paleo, although I still eat a small amount of cheese and have an occasional diet coke; but the vast majority of my food is from fish and meat, non-starchy veg, olive oil, and small amounts of nuts and seeds.
I’ve been reading a lot of the posts on here about athletic performance while in a state of ketosis, and the general consensus seems to be that anything hitting the glycolitic pathway is likely to be severely hampered (with shorter efforts and longer efforts relatively unaffected once you adapt, which takes a few weeks only). Obviously, a lot of Crossfit workouts fall into this criteria, and I’ve already noticed that I’m completely drained in these workouts (while my strength workouts have continued to improve).
Now my main focus right now is on improving my diabetic control, and if performance must be a consequence then so be it. However, if it’s possible to get the benefit of good blood control and improved performance then I’ll take it! So I have a couple of questions:
- If I were to add carbs to my post-workout feed after every metcon workout, how much carbohydrate would I likely need to add in order to see any benefit? I’m asking because I believe I could add a small amount of carb post-workout without my bloods spiking too high; but I’d be reluctant to try more than 20-30g or so.
- If I don’t do this, would it help to leave longer periods between metcon workouts? I don’t know how much muscle glycogen can be replaced on a very low carb diet; presumably some via gluconeogenesis? Would I likely need to wait 2 days, or 3, or 4, or 100 between metcon workouts for stores to be sufficiently replenished to perform well? Will this even work at all?
Basically, this is all kind of new to me and I’m looking for some advice on the best way to proceed. I’m committed to a low carb diet, but I’d also like to make a good fist of improving my Crossfit times, and I’m just wondering what you’d advise. My diabetic team at the clinic are unable to offer any advice or help whatsoever; they seem to think that as long as my A1c's are below 7% I don't need to change anything, which isn't much use to me.
Finally, let me stress that I’m not going to take anything anyone posts as medical advice or blindly follow your recommendations; anything I try will be implemented carefully. I’m just after some theoretical information so I can make a judgement call myself on what to try.
Thanks loads in advance, and also for all the great info on the site in general.
Cheers,
Nick.
First post here, sorry for the length! I’ve been lurking on this forum and at Crossfit.com for a long time and learned a lot already, and wanted a bit of potential advice regarding carbohydrate intake.
I’m a 32 year old male, 6’ 3” and 200lbs with about 15-18% body fat. I’m not particularly fit at the moment, but I’m working hard to rectify that with a mixture of a Starting Strength program and a couple of metcon workouts per week. I’m also a type 1 diabetic.
I recently read Bernstein’s writings on diabetic control, and I adopted his diet a fortnight ago with excellent results; my bloods have been the best I’ve ever seen, consistently in the normal range throughout the day and night. This diet means I’m getting 30g of carbs most days; the only way I go above that amount is if I go hypo and need carbs to raise my bloods. I’m eating mainly Paleo, although I still eat a small amount of cheese and have an occasional diet coke; but the vast majority of my food is from fish and meat, non-starchy veg, olive oil, and small amounts of nuts and seeds.
I’ve been reading a lot of the posts on here about athletic performance while in a state of ketosis, and the general consensus seems to be that anything hitting the glycolitic pathway is likely to be severely hampered (with shorter efforts and longer efforts relatively unaffected once you adapt, which takes a few weeks only). Obviously, a lot of Crossfit workouts fall into this criteria, and I’ve already noticed that I’m completely drained in these workouts (while my strength workouts have continued to improve).
Now my main focus right now is on improving my diabetic control, and if performance must be a consequence then so be it. However, if it’s possible to get the benefit of good blood control and improved performance then I’ll take it! So I have a couple of questions:
- If I were to add carbs to my post-workout feed after every metcon workout, how much carbohydrate would I likely need to add in order to see any benefit? I’m asking because I believe I could add a small amount of carb post-workout without my bloods spiking too high; but I’d be reluctant to try more than 20-30g or so.
- If I don’t do this, would it help to leave longer periods between metcon workouts? I don’t know how much muscle glycogen can be replaced on a very low carb diet; presumably some via gluconeogenesis? Would I likely need to wait 2 days, or 3, or 4, or 100 between metcon workouts for stores to be sufficiently replenished to perform well? Will this even work at all?
Basically, this is all kind of new to me and I’m looking for some advice on the best way to proceed. I’m committed to a low carb diet, but I’d also like to make a good fist of improving my Crossfit times, and I’m just wondering what you’d advise. My diabetic team at the clinic are unable to offer any advice or help whatsoever; they seem to think that as long as my A1c's are below 7% I don't need to change anything, which isn't much use to me.
Finally, let me stress that I’m not going to take anything anyone posts as medical advice or blindly follow your recommendations; anything I try will be implemented carefully. I’m just after some theoretical information so I can make a judgement call myself on what to try.
Thanks loads in advance, and also for all the great info on the site in general.
Cheers,
Nick.