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Greg Davis
04-14-2008, 09:59 AM
heres an interesting one:

http://www.t-nation.com/portal_includes/articles/products/blue/z12.jsp

Chris Bardwell
04-14-2008, 11:22 AM
I was thinking about this the other day when I saw it came out. Will be interesting to see what reviewers make of it, can't figure out if its just glorified melatonin. I may order a tub to give a try on the odd night here and there, although overpriced and overhyped biotest do produce some good stuff and I'm sure they put a lot of thought into this product.

Garrett Smith
04-14-2008, 12:17 PM
I really like using "natural" (or close to it) sleep aids, so I may do my own preparation with something similar to that formula and see how it goes.

Stress is a bitch.

Tony Ferous
04-14-2008, 03:08 PM
Anyone tried Tryptophan as a sleep aid?

Its cheaper, L-Tryptophan, 500 mg, 90 - $20buck on the site i looked at.

Dave Van Skike
04-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Anyone tried Tryptophan as a sleep aid?

Its cheaper, L-Tryptophan, 500 mg, 90 - $20buck on the site i looked at.

I did, got nothing from it. In order of effectivness for me,


Melatonin
Valerian
Red,red wine.
GABA
Kava

Mike ODonnell
04-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Go drink some Margherittas 2-3 hours before bed....the resulting blood sugar crash with tequilla will knock anyone out cold.....

Garrett Smith
04-16-2008, 10:18 AM
Tryptophan needs to be taken in at least multi-gram doses to have much effect, and it should be separated from other proteins and amino acids that directly compete with its transport to the brain (I can't remember which those are off the top of my head).

The nice thing about tryptophan is that the body can choose which pathway to shuttle it down, the 5-HTP or the niacin pathway, so the body has a blowoff valve. With 5-HTP, it all goes directly to serotonin, which may or may not be an issue for an individual. See serotonin syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome). No 5-HTP for anyone on antidepressants in my book.

I personally like the Revitalizing Sleep Formula (https://www.vitacost.com/store/products/productdescription.cfm?SKUNumber=763948032334) from Enzymatic Therapy. It has valerian in it, as Dave mentioned in his list, and L-theanine, which is in the T-Nation supplement.

John Alston
04-18-2008, 06:36 AM
TP for anyone on antidepressants in my book.

I personally like the Revitalizing Sleep Formula (https://www.vitacost.com/store/products/productdescription.cfm?SKUNumber=763948032334) from Enzymatic Therapy. It has valerian in it, as Dave mentioned in his list, and L-theanine, which is in the T-Nation supplement.

I tried this last night and slept pretty awesome, something I hadn't done at home in a while.
Thanks, G.

Garrett Smith
04-18-2008, 09:36 AM
My pleasure, John!

Tony Ferous
06-01-2008, 07:15 PM
I usually take straight melatonin to help with jetlag, i forgot on my last trip tough, i picked up some of this source naturals nutrasleep.
Worked well ill use it again.
I cant remember what GABA does, will dig around..

http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?c=1&pid=1344

4 tabs contain this, i took only 1 or 2 though:

Niacinamide 10 mg 50%
Vitamin B-6 (as pyridoxine HCI) 2 mg 100%
Calcium (as calcium citrate & carbonate) 255 mg 25%
Magnesium (as magnesium taurinate oxide & citrate) 436 mg 110%
Inositol 700 mg †
GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid) 600 mg †
Taurine (as magnesium taurinate) 433 mg †
Skullcap Aerial Parts 250 mg †
Passionflower Aerial Parts 200 mg †
Valerian Root 200 mg †
Chamomile Flower Extract (4:1) 100 mg †

Garrett Smith
06-02-2008, 12:01 PM
I've been getting good results with the PharmaGABA from Thorne, the same stuff that's in the T-Nation supplement.

Work and training have had me sleeping quite well even without it though.

Greg Davis
06-02-2008, 12:37 PM
New Chapter is a brand that you can find in almost any health food store.. they have their Tranquilnite™ Plus (http://www.newchapter.com/products/tranquilnite-plus).

I haven't heard any good/bad things about NC products but they seem to emphasize the whole foods approach of culturing their supplements.. but they use soy a lot which is cautionary.. anyone have any good/bad comments on NC stuff?

Garrett Smith
06-02-2008, 02:03 PM
It's cultured soy and in relatively small (supplemental) amounts, I wouldn't concern myself with it unless someone is sensitive to begin with.

I like New Chapter's stuff in general.

Paul McKirdy
06-06-2008, 08:02 PM
How about a large rubber mallet from ACME INC? :)

Seriously though, since I have started becoming even more and more on the IF side of the sustenance methodology house, I agree that I find the later evening carbs cause nice cozy coma by bedtime :). Probably by design ;). Whether its a beer or a glass or two of wine or sweet potato doesn't matter.

Or like the infamous Breyers every night for example, and yes I actually eat some most nights. Sound asleep in no time haha.