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Frank Needham
04-25-2008, 06:29 AM
ack! The pollen is making me want to scratch my eyes out of the sockets! Allegra and similar things do not work any more, the sensitivity to the various pollens floating about on the wind has intensified. I'm looking into seeing a specialist here that develops customized allergen shots for individuals based on what they react to. What do those of you do that have allergy problems?

Garrett Smith
04-25-2008, 06:39 AM
There are some easy things that anyone with allergies needs to do to strengthen their immune system:
1) Get 8+ hours of sleep
2) NO SUGAR (and very little fruit), preferably low-carb in general without artificial sweeteners
3) Proper sun exposure daily and CLO
4) No pasteurized dairy

Those are the base things, healthy for everyone, that can reduce the severity of symptoms in many people by quite a bit.

Mike ODonnell
04-25-2008, 09:42 AM
Clean up the gut.
(http://projectfit.org/iflifeblog/2008/03/19/is-your-gut-leaking-what-to-do-about-it/)

Frank Needham
04-25-2008, 01:49 PM
There are some easy things that anyone with allergies needs to do to strengthen their immune system:
1) Get 8+ hours of sleep
2) NO SUGAR (and very little fruit), preferably low-carb in general without artificial sweeteners
3) Proper sun exposure daily and CLO
4) No pasteurized dairy

Those are the base things, healthy for everyone, that can reduce the severity of symptoms in many people by quite a bit.

Less than 8 hours sleep: check
Sugar in some of the foods eaten: check
Lack of outdoor activity: check
Pasteurized whipping cream for coffee: check

Well I'm batting 100% on this one, ugh. Typical excuses, school/studying, work, daily responsibilities, etc, etc.

One thing about the allergies though, they only occur during a roughly 6 week window from mid April till the beginning of June when hot weather arrives. And, it seems the older I get the more sensitivity is developed to pollens. The increase in mulberry/olive trees in the desert has been phenomenal during the time I've lived here.

Frank Needham
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
Clean up the gut.
(http://projectfit.org/iflifeblog/2008/03/19/is-your-gut-leaking-what-to-do-about-it/)

Thats good stuff. Short and to the point. Actually great stuff, I'd forgotten that recently a sinus problem had to be dealt with by antibiotics and then I neglected to run probiotics through to restore things. I'm going to take care of that.

Mike ODonnell
04-25-2008, 02:40 PM
Well I'm batting 100% on this one, ugh. Typical excuses, school/studying, work, daily responsibilities, etc, etc.

Excess stress?....not a good thing.....make gut angry.....you won't like it when it's angry.....

Well at least on the bright side....you won't turn all green....

Frank Needham
04-25-2008, 04:09 PM
Excess stress?....not a good thing.....make gut angry.....you won't like it when it's angry.....

Well at least on the bright side....you won't turn all green....

Stress? Right now, no, I just got home with a sixer of Guiness Draught. One of which I'm sampling now. Soon we will go to a local park here by Lake Mead that features Desert Bighorn Sheep that come down from the hills surrounding the lake. They are just a kick to sit there and watch as they feed on the grass and soak up the sun.

Darryl Shaw
04-26-2008, 04:35 AM
I've suffered with severe hayfever since I was a kid and I've never liked taking antihistamines (or any other kind of pill) so I used to really suffer every summer until someone told me to try eating honey. I was skeptical at first but I decided that as I had nothing to lose I'd give it a try and I haven't had a bad summer since.
It has to be raw locally produced honey, preferably multifloral, and it seems to work best if you start eating a couple of spoonfuls a day a month or two before the pollen season starts. I've found that it's best to source your honey direct from local beekeepers so you can be sure it isn't heat treated or over filtered also, if you can, buying a jar or two from a number of different local bee keepers seems to help as it improves the chances that the bees will have taken some of the pollen that you're most allergic to.
I know some people are going to say that all sweeteners should be avoided on a paleo diet but as honey has always been eaten by hunter-gatherers, it's even a staple source of carbs for some, I see no reason to avoid eating it.

Frank Needham
04-26-2008, 06:30 AM
work best if you start eating a couple of spoonfuls a day a month or two before the pollen season starts.

I'm glad that works for you Darryl, thanks for the idea. However, if I ate that much honey for the period of time needed to cover when the allergies start severe acne would be my problem instead. I've always been sensitive to sugars in any form and have learned to keep them to a bare minimum. Most of the time I work to exclude them entirely but find the urge to eat sweets once in a while to much to resist.

Garrett Smith
04-26-2008, 03:25 PM
Frank,
If you've never tried truly raw honey, it's a different beast altogether than the brown runny stuff.

If you don't want to do raw honey due to the sugar, you can get a similar effect from locally collected bee pollen. Think of it as similar to a "natural" immunization/desensitization. I have patients who swear by it.

Frank Needham
04-27-2008, 11:08 AM
Yeah, I've tried raw honey before and it is dandy stuff. I could eat it till it comes out my ears but it would come out my pores at the same time I'm afraid. Now that bee pollen is something I've heard about before and it is worth a shot thats for sure. I've got some Jarrows probiotics on the way. I'll try the bee pollen and monitor progress then when the probiotics are here I'll switch to see if either has an effect. I'll let you know how it turns out. BTW, I hope you and Mrs. Smith are enjoying life with a new addition to the family. Ours is 22 months old now. Watch your language is one pointer I'll share. :o

Garrett Smith
04-27-2008, 12:26 PM
That will be a problem, I know that already.

My wife came to my adult gymnastics class (she watched and gave pointers, she was a good gymnast through high school) and she kept telling me to watch my mouth because there were kids around. Crap.

Heck, growing up I couldn't even say "fart" around my house...

Darryl Shaw
04-28-2008, 06:24 AM
I'm glad that works for you Darryl, thanks for the idea. However, if I ate that much honey for the period of time needed to cover when the allergies start severe acne would be my problem instead. I've always been sensitive to sugars in any form and have learned to keep them to a bare minimum. Most of the time I work to exclude them entirely but find the urge to eat sweets once in a while to much to resist.

Frank, when I said you should try taking a couple of spoonfuls a day I meant teaspoons not tablespoons which adds up to only a few grams of honey per day. I doubt this much honey will cause any problems but considering how cheap honey is compared to the alternatives it has to be worth a try.

Frank Needham
04-28-2008, 07:01 PM
That will be a problem, I know that already.

My wife came to my adult gymnastics class (she watched and gave pointers, she was a good gymnast through high school) and she kept telling me to watch my mouth because there were kids around. Crap.

Heck, growing up I couldn't even say "fart" around my house...

Not to long ago I was stung by a scorpion and shouted SHIT!!! Only problem is, the boy is just learning to talk and you can guess what his favorite word was for a while. Of course he chose all the right places to say it so as to make it the most embarrassing.

Frank Needham
04-28-2008, 07:13 PM
When you're as sensitive to sugar as I am Daryl, even a few grams a day can make a wreck of you. Adult acne, or any acne for that matter, is not good. One thing about it though, if you have problems with it and learn to connect it with poor diet you learn to eat well.

Adam Noble
04-29-2008, 12:29 AM
Rinsing out my sinus with a squeeze bottle of saline solution has helped me quite a bit. Takes some getting used to, and is pretty gross, but it works.

Frank Needham
05-07-2008, 10:31 AM
I decided to forego the honey but did get jarrow probiotics. Also, my doc rxd some anti itch eye drops and nasal spray steroid concoction. So far, no more itching. Started using the rxd stuff right away which gave almost immediate relief. Can't say whether the probiotics are doing anything for the allergies but I need them anyway so I'm taking them as well.