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Arden Cogar Jr.
05-13-2008, 12:41 PM
Hello All,
I'm trying to compile a nice library of books on weightlifting so I can get myself as educated as possible on the lifts before going to any Coaching certifications. I may even go to the Moorestown training week the first week of July if I can swing it. I'd love to actually get to some gyms that have platforms and train with other lifters just to get a feel for the lifts, etc.

In any event, I've got Kono's Weightlifting Olympic Style, Newton's Explosive Lifting for Sport, Schmidt's bad ironmind book with dvd that won't work, and Dan John's from the Ground up. Last night I got Artie Drescher's Encloypedia of Weightlifing - good lord, it's going to take me a month of sunday's to read that thing. Small print, double columned prose, and very few illustrations. She's gonna be a struggle, but I ain't no quitter.

Are there any other good books out there I should add for my collection/influence/osmosis?

All the best,
Arden

John Alston
05-13-2008, 01:27 PM
That's a good list already. The other one I'd add would be Essentials of Weightlifting and Strength Training (http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Weightlifting-Strength-Training-El-Hewie/dp/097195819X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203524095&sr=8-1) which is giant, has great pictures, covers all kinds of stuff, and is more fun to read than Artie's book (in my opinion).
I posted a little on Dr. Hewie on my blog here: http://bastardolifters.blogspot.com/2008/02/dr.html
I like Kono's a lot.
Dan John's I read before I even tried a (weightlifting) snatch and was good prep.

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-13-2008, 01:49 PM
Thanks John,
It's on order. :-D

All the best,
Arden

Arien Malec
05-13-2008, 06:18 PM
Schmidt's bad ironmind book with dvd that won't work

Email him and ask him for an updated dvd... The book isn't worth much, but the dvd is worth having.

http://www.sportspalace.org/

sarena kopciel
05-13-2008, 06:53 PM
also check out this website:
www.lifttilyadie.com

John Alston
05-14-2008, 06:31 AM
Thanks John,
It's on order. :-D

All the best,
Arden

You'll enjoy. It's kind of a trip sometimes, but full of good stuff, and a couple of suggested workouts I like.

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-14-2008, 08:35 AM
Email him and ask him for an updated dvd... The book isn't worth much, but the dvd is worth having.

http://www.sportspalace.org/

thanks Arien,
I'll do that.

All the best,
Arden

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-14-2008, 08:37 AM
also check out this website:
www.lifttilyadie.com


Thanks Sarena,
It's awesome. It's going to take some time to read all of that material. Thanks so much.

All the best,
Arden

sarena kopciel
05-14-2008, 02:22 PM
Thanks Sarena,
It's awesome. It's going to take some time to read all of that material. Thanks so much.

All the best,
Arden

Sure I believe its my coach's bro who put it together:)

Leo Soubbotine
05-15-2008, 04:58 AM
To make your life harder than it already is:

Russian Manuals @ EliteFTS (http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=222)

They're translated in English.

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-15-2008, 07:25 AM
To make your life harder than it already is:

Russian Manuals @ EliteFTS (http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?cid=222)

They're translated in English.

Oh, gawd....my wife's gonna kill me. Which of those translated versions would you recommend?

All the best,
Arden

Leo Soubbotine
05-15-2008, 08:54 AM
I haven't gotten any yet.
Right now all I'm reading is business books.

Call them and ask. Or just dig up Louie's number and ask him - that's where all those manuals are coming from (that's how he designed WS method)

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-15-2008, 10:15 AM
I haven't gotten any yet.
Right now all I'm reading is business books.

Call them and ask. Or just dig up Louie's number and ask him - that's where all those manuals are coming from (that's how he designed WS method)

good point. I keep forgetting how young you are and where you're at. Sorry about that. I may just take a stab and "launder" some money from the misses and see if I can get away with purchasing as few at a time.

And yes, it would be cool to see the concepts upon which WSB is based from the source.

All the best,
Arden

Dave Van Skike
05-15-2008, 10:34 AM
Shhhh. Don't tell. I think Louie just made it up.

I'm sort of not kidding. He seems to have such a clear training philosophy that I almost wonder if he "knew" how to put a system together and then went looking for evidence. The rate at which he refines his system on an intuitive level is incredible, I doubt he'd let the Text get in the way of a good idea. But you've met him, what do you think?

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-15-2008, 11:39 AM
I first met Louie about 20 some years ago. Very neat guy. Very bright and articulate. He was a successful lifter and he had several successful lifters before, I think, WSB became the WSB we know now. Or at least before he started writing about it.

IMO, You are absoltuely correct. The WSB approach has it's foundation in the eastern training philosophies that Louie has expounded upon and changed/adapted to fit powerlifting to a T. I agree with your description of changing the system on an intuitive level to a T. That could not be described any better.

To be blunt, I wish I would have known about WSB when I was powerlifting; but it really didn't come into vogue until after I'd given it up. It's strange, but the more I look at my own program, the more similarities I see with some of the programs I've seen elsewhere. We all learn from one another. A good coach is a good coach. Louie is a great coach in my opinion. The proof is in his athletes.

All the best,
Arden

Shhhh. Don't tell. I think Louie just made it up.

I'm sort of not kidding. He seems to have such a clear training philosophy that I almost wonder if he "knew" how to put a system together and then went looking for evidence. The rate at which he refines his system on an intuitive level is incredible, I doubt he'd let the Text get in the way of a good idea. But you've met him, what do you think?

Leo Soubbotine
05-15-2008, 12:40 PM
It's a list they gave us at CF business cert - 10 or so books.

I have still a few books I haven't read that I bought. Time is in a crunch.
Plus I get lazy sometimes. :D

Walter Brook
05-16-2008, 08:40 AM
Here is a link to get the Russian books cheaper:

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sportivny/library/index.html

I have not read any of them yet. They seem interesting though.

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-16-2008, 01:37 PM
Here is a link to get the Russian books cheaper:

http://www.dynamic-eleiko.com/sportivny/library/index.html

I have not read any of them yet. They seem interesting though.

Thanks a million Walter. I got your pm at xfit. Thanks again.

My misses is gonna kill me. :D

All the best,
Arden

Leo Soubbotine
05-17-2008, 12:58 PM
Those articles are fracking cool!

I read a few of them in Russian, but never knew they're in English also.

I'll link some to our blog.
Essentials of Weightlifting is phenomenal!

Arden Cogar Jr.
05-18-2008, 04:56 PM
That's a good list already. The other one I'd add would be Essentials of Weightlifting and Strength Training (http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Weightlifting-Strength-Training-El-Hewie/dp/097195819X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203524095&sr=8-1) which is giant, has great pictures, covers all kinds of stuff, and is more fun to read than Artie's book (in my opinion).
I posted a little on Dr. Hewie on my blog here: http://bastardolifters.blogspot.com/2008/02/dr.html
I like Kono's a lot.
Dan John's I read before I even tried a (weightlifting) snatch and was good prep.

OMG. I just got that book. Unreal pictorial analysis and explanation of the movements, positions, faults in positions, etc.

A must buy for anyone who's interested.

All the best,
Arden

Ken Urakawa
05-19-2008, 08:12 AM
That's a good list already. The other one I'd add would be Essentials of Weightlifting and Strength Training (http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Weightlifting-Strength-Training-El-Hewie/dp/097195819X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203524095&sr=8-1) which is giant, has great pictures, covers all kinds of stuff, and is more fun to read than Artie's book (in my opinion).
I posted a little on Dr. Hewie on my blog here: http://bastardolifters.blogspot.com/2008/02/dr.html
I like Kono's a lot.
Dan John's I read before I even tried a (weightlifting) snatch and was good prep.

FWIW another vote for Dr. El-Hewie's book being an interesting read. TONS of info, very in-depth.