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Tirzah Harper
06-12-2008, 07:06 AM
Is this typical of IF-ing, and/or rest days in general? It seems to be typical of me, anyway.

Today as an example - I'm usually fine waiting to eat until 11 or noon. Today I'm resting and HUNGRY at 9! Also, it takes more food than normal to satisfy my hunger.

If my BF% was where I like it to be, I'd just go with the flow and eat more than usual...but right now I don't want to stop the fat loss, so I'm not sure if it's better to eat or to just be okay with being hungrier on rest days.

Steven Low
06-12-2008, 04:38 PM
Let's see your body after a workout and mainly during the night dumps a lot of anabolic hormones into your bloodstream to promote healing and growth of the muscles. So during the day the body wants more energy to help fuel this growth.

Probably ghrelin modulated although I'd have to look that up since I haven't taken a look at ghrelin induced hunger on the days after exercise. I know GH release from exercise is not ghrelin modulated though.

In conclusion, if you want to gain weight (probably muscle) feel free to eat a bit more. Otherwise, go hungry (you can blunt hunger by drinking water) or eating some fat (although you might have to take away some cals from meals then...).

Really depends what diet you're on and if you're getting enough cals. It is possible, in some cases, if you're getting to few calories to increase the cals and you'll keep losing weight.

Garrett Smith
06-12-2008, 05:37 PM
Tirzah,
My question is, what do you do differently on or before your rest days food-wise...as in, how would your body know whether the next day is going to be a workout day or a fasting day?

Leo Soubbotine
06-13-2008, 05:14 AM
That's why my rest days and cheat days are same - weekend!

I always am much much hungrier on days without a workout.

Mike ODonnell
06-13-2008, 08:25 AM
I always am much much hungrier on days without a workout.

True that....could be the body's way of knowing it has time right now to get in what it needs to repair/rebuild (that and exercise will shut down cravings/hunger...as there is no way the body wants food and to waste energy on digestion if you are running around doing things)....and get ready for the next workout that may be coming soon. Hunger is just our natural motivation to refuel to get ready for the next hunt...it just never planned on having food so easily accessible nowadays.The body is smart.....too bad our thinking/brain usually screws it up somehow.

Tirzah Harper
06-13-2008, 10:07 AM
Tirzah,
My question is, what do you do differently on or before your rest days food-wise...as in, how would your body know whether the next day is going to be a workout day or a fasting day?

Garrett,
I do about the same thing every day...maybe 100-150 more calories on workout days, which doesn't really seem to me like all that much.
I do work out first thing in the morning, though, and I'm wondering if the workout slows my digestive metabolism or whatever that would be, similar to what MOD is talking about in his post here.
Otherwise my eating habits are basically the same whether I'm working out one day in a row or three, or resting: I have a cup or two of kefir with cinnamon around 11 or thereafter, maybe some plain tea before that, and then eat something around 2 and again around 6 or 7.
So it seems like the only variable is the early-morning workout.

Liam Dougherty Springer
06-13-2008, 03:24 PM
I relate to the hunger on rest days. my intuition tells me that if you fall into a rutine your body repscts it if you always eat right after a work out you always will be hungry after a work out. If you wake up and aren't going to work out perhaps your body knows it can go ahead and get hungry earlier. No need to wait.

What I also think and practice is when you live with out a routine your body never knows what to expect and thus becomes much more adaptive to random circumstance.

What I do and has recently been serving me extreemly well is alternate my fasting and eating windows. Both the time of day I start them and the legth of window. I also sometimes work out late in the day sometimes early and every so often right in the middle.

About every other work out I train OES on empty stomach and if I do brek my fast before the work out I am often under fed. I dont only do this on early work out days I have fasted 21 hours worked out at 6pm and broke my fast at 7:30.

I have found that my body is much more flexable with my eating times since i began switching it up.

All that being said one of my favorite things to do on a rest day is eat a big 6 blocks breakfast high in protein and fruit as soon as I wake up. Eat a moderate 3 blocks meal containing only verry low density vegetables like broccoli for carbs and minimal fat a couple hours later. and then by 1pm eat my last meal about 3 bocks with maybe .5 blocks carbs in greens and a bunch of fat like 25 blocks. Then I dont eat agin for 22 or so hours. It serves me well and promots my recovery and protein retention while giving me a tremendouse break from insulin and digestion before starting into my next work out block.

Keep in mind that I am a 28 year old ;male at 5'10" and 175 pounds. My BFP is around 10% and I eat a 16-18 block a day diet with a fluctuating 3x to 5x fat content. So that 12 block day with reduced carbs and fat is a significant reduction in calories, as well as a very early eating window which gives me the rest of my active day to use any energy stored and I am wide open for HGH release during sleep which further aids use of adipouse tissue for my muscular recovery. I believe this is also why I find myself not hungry the next day and will often eat a small mid day meal with some fruit (for glycogen replinishment after a long fast) a couple of hours before a good first work out.

I don't know if this will help but it works for me. I have been getting leaner by the week and have gained a little weight if anything. However for me the biggest bennifit has been that I have lost no strength and actualy recently made a PR on Deadlifts. Meanwhile my Metcon times have been droping dramaticaly especialy those involving only body weight gymnastic movements.