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Edward Guzman
09-03-2008, 11:23 PM
I am a Fast 5 IFer.
Losing weight rather fast: 2lbs a week.

Anyway I am interested in sweeteners. I think I once read Xylitol and Fructose were not all that great because they instigate an insulin response.

I drink lots of lemon water. I like to sweeten it with something.
Wondering if using Stevia (my main sweetner), Xylitol or Fructose will have a negative impact on my fat loss.

Open to thought and opinions.

Ed G

Darryl Shaw
09-04-2008, 05:46 AM
Have you considered using honey? The calorie content and effects on your blood sugar/insulin levels of half a spoonful would be negligible and if recent studies are to be believed honey may even improve athletic performance.

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2000/F/200005562.html

http://www.pioneerthinking.com/honeyexercise.html

Jeremy Shepard
09-04-2008, 07:57 AM
Fructose doesn't stimulate insulin. Too much of it does funky stuff that impairs insulin sensitivity and signaling, though.

Xylitol, maybe a little, but it's good for the teeth.

Honey is glucose and fructose like everything else, so it will produce some insulin.

Robert Callahan
10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
I was reading up a bit on Stevia the other day. Supposedly it has no negative effects on insulin and in fact may improve insulin sensitivity, though I don't think that has been conclusively proven. Problem is there was some controversy in the US in the early 90s as to whether or not certain compounds in it are carcinogenic. Apparently there have been foreign studies showing this to be false, but due to politics and potentially a different opinion the US still has it banned as a food additive, but not as a supplement.

Whether that makes it safe to use or not.... I would need to read up more on, but it seems to have the potential to be a pretty healthy sweetener... as long as it doesn't cause cancer :)

-Robert

Garrett Smith
10-14-2008, 09:32 PM
A little stevia or raw honey are both worth you getting down the lemon water, and they both may have their own benefits.

Simply use as little as you need to in order to drink it.

Allen Yeh
10-15-2008, 02:49 AM
I can't stand using stevia in coffee...at least not the brand I have right now. It makes me sick to my stomach!

Honey + coffee + heavy cream = awesome

Jamila Bey
10-15-2008, 04:47 PM
Honey + coffee + heavy cream = awesome

OMG I thought I was the only one who does this!!!

Grissim Connery
10-15-2008, 08:29 PM
i tend to try to sweeten nothing unless it's a cheat day. i feel happy when i've reduced carb intakes to low enough levels that just a lemon in water tastes more sweet than sour. i have a history of problems with food binges, so the more i avoid sweet tastes, the harder it is to handle them in bulk. thus i feel successful when i can fully appreciate the beautiful minute flavors that exist in a lemon in water that are otherwise hard to sense.

George Mounce
10-15-2008, 09:58 PM
Big fan of honey in coffee here.

sarena kopciel
10-15-2008, 10:03 PM
coffee au naturall, BLACK!

Allen Yeh
10-16-2008, 05:11 AM
OMG I thought I was the only one who does this!!!

My wife thinks I'm sick!

George Mounce
10-16-2008, 06:28 AM
coffee au naturall, BLACK!

Thats good too during fast time!

Blair Lowe
10-16-2008, 11:20 AM
I do remember something about too much sugar alcohols causing digestive and elimination problems.

I wouldn't be surprised if Stevia is getting lobbied against by the other big sweetners.

Aimee Anaya Everett
11-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Have you ever used the Stevia herb?
Rather than processed Stevia, you can buy a plant and just use the leaves. We have a plant in our kitchen and it is great for teas, water, coffee, etc. I don't think it tastes anything like the processed Stevia.

I use it with my lemon verbena plant, and a little mint and you are good to go.

My daughter eats the leaves, and likes it in her tea.

oh.. here is a little info on Stevia (http://www.stevia.net/)

Gant Grimes
11-14-2008, 02:31 PM
I do remember something about too much sugar alcohols causing digestive and elimination problems.

Yes. I used to eat those Zone bars. As others will tell you, sugar alcohols can create an explosive situation.