PDA

View Full Version : HFCS Commercials


Allen Yeh
09-09-2008, 08:25 AM
http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/09/08/natural-nonsense/

Anyone else seen these commercials? They make my head hurt.

Steven Low
09-09-2008, 09:11 AM
If I ever write a hate letter it will be to the "Corn Refiners Association"

Patrick Donnelly
09-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Promoting high fructose corn syrup?

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6041/1220594008738ow2.jpg

Greg Everett
09-09-2008, 03:10 PM
It's a hell of a strategy - making people feel like dumb assholes for being concerned with their health.

Mike ODonnell
09-09-2008, 03:39 PM
It's a hell of a strategy - making people feel like dumb assholes for being concerned with their health.

That's what I was thinking when I saw it on TV....wow...shame on us for trying to not have artificial sweeteners.....I mean, why not say for every donut we don't buy, we kill a kid in Africa or something......we are just selfish selfish people, what about the stockholders of major corn corporations...or the people on the board at Kellogs...how are they going to tell their kids that they had to trade in the Mercedes for a Minivan....Oh the horror....because apparently, like sugar, it's ok in moderation....who says that in real life?

Garrett Smith
09-09-2008, 06:27 PM
We must protect ourselves, because no corporation or other financial interest will do it for us...

Allen Yeh
09-10-2008, 05:30 AM
It's a hell of a strategy - making people feel like dumb assholes for being concerned with their health.

That is awesome.

Craig Brown
09-10-2008, 08:12 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/healthreport/stories/2007/1969924.htm

I am posting this link anywhere these ads get mentioned...really great interview with a man with a brain (and ethics).

Dave Van Skike
09-10-2008, 08:24 AM
i bet corn syrup would make a good industrial adhesive.....a little toulene to get it to flow and some sort of a hardener....

I can see it now...corn husk carbon fiber!!!

Allen Yeh
09-10-2008, 08:43 AM
A link to Scott Kustes blog:

http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/09/10/the-corn-lobby-is-really-desperate-do-people-believe-this-stuff/

Stephen Brown
09-12-2008, 01:42 PM
no direct mention of HFCS, and I don't really know a lot about this topic but this article about kids with fatty liver disease is interesting.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_on_he_me/med_fat_children_liver_disease

Derek Maffett
09-12-2008, 06:21 PM
His patient, Irving Shaffino, a 15-year-old Mexican-American who lives outside Lubbock, Texas, was lucky to get a transplant a year ago. He was in end-stage cirrhosis and, at 5-feet-4 1/2, weighed 180 pounds.

Sadly, however, Irving has made little progress in losing weight. While he's grown an inch and a half since his operation, he's still obese and his weight was up to 219 last month.

What's wrong with this picture?

Steven Low
09-12-2008, 08:04 PM
So sad... need to get these kids on a good diet...

Its pretty obvious in that article they're like blaming obesity and then they're saying they're feeding the kid burgers, pizza and high starch food. I mean.. wtf?

Derek Maffett
09-12-2008, 10:15 PM
So sad... need to get these kids on a good diet...

Its pretty obvious in that article they're like blaming obesity and then they're saying they're feeding the kid burgers, pizza and high starch food. I mean.. wtf?

I thought they said the burgers, pizza, and high starch foods were to blame for his obesity, and now he's eating fruits, vegetables, and "whole grains." (Of course, that could just be a way of saying that he's downing lots of so-called "healthy" bread).

Regardless, something is definitely wrong if someone refines their diet and becomes more obese.

Kevin Perry
09-12-2008, 11:40 PM
I thought they said the burgers, pizza, and high starch foods were to blame for his obesity, and now he's eating fruits, vegetables, and "whole grains." (Of course, that could just be a way of saying that he's downing lots of so-called "healthy" bread).

Regardless, something is definitely wrong if someone refines their diet and becomes more obese.


I never read the article but my Anatomy teacher pointed out a new "study" trying to pin blame of obesity on distorted genes that occur when people are in the infancy.

Regardless, every time people stem away from the actual cause of problems that deal with hypokinetic diseases, especially obesity, etc. No responsibility or personal initiative to directly deal with the cause. sad.

Jarod Barker
09-13-2008, 10:45 AM
http://www.sweetsurprise.com/index.php

No wonder Americans are fat, hypertensive, diabetics. This is the nutritional information being fed to them (pun not so intended). This is almost as bad as Men's Health trying to tell everyone to eat high carb and low fat for more energy.

John Vernon
09-13-2008, 12:52 PM
http://www.sweetsurprise.com/index.php

Awesome, HFCS has NO artificial ingredients...it's organic so it must be good for me.

The corn tycoons sure have fired up the ol' propoganda machine.

Allen Yeh
09-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Hey a twinkie came from has vegetable oil in it...so it must be good for you since it came from vegetables right? I can see it now....

"twinkies are from spinach......so make sure you get your 5 servings a day!"

Kevin Perry
09-13-2008, 01:20 PM
Twinkies.. yum

I think i'll go have ice cream

Patrick Donnelly
09-13-2008, 07:31 PM
In the HFCS "facts page"...

Sources:
1) Based on data provided in Sweetener Analysis, January 2008, published by LMC International, Inc.
2) 58 Federal Register 2302, 2407 (Jan. 6, 1993).
3) See generally White PJ and Johnson LA, “Corn Sweeteners,” in Corn Chemistry and Technology, 2nd Edition (2003); Alexander RJ, “Production and Description,” in Sweeteners: Nutritive (1998); and Corn Refiners Association, “Manufacture,” in Nutritive Sweeteners from Corn, 8th Edition (2006).

Are you allowed to cite yourself? That just doesn't seem right.

Allen Yeh
11-11-2008, 08:17 AM
In his 3rd Question of Nutrition Article by Dr. Jonny Bowden he touches on the HFCS commercials:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_nutrition_bo dybuilding/question_of_nutrition_vol_3

The Corn Refiners Association's pro-HFCS ads make two arguments:

• It's no worse than sugar. Okay, maybe, but that's like saying Salems are no worse than Marlboros.

• It's natural because it's made from corn. Maybe so, but so is ethanol, and I'm not drinking that either.

Gant Grimes
11-11-2008, 02:57 PM
When I saw this, I though it was a CFS (chicken fried steak) thread. I'm disappointed.

PS Corn is the devil.

Steven Low
12-02-2008, 12:49 PM
I was read this article (interesting read btw) and came across this nice.. or disgusting little tidbit:
http://www.the-scientist.com/2008/12/1/18/1/

Carnivores show high levels of nitrogen-15, which correlates with their high place in the food chain, since the isotope tends to collect in animal tissue, and therefore increases in meat-lovers. The worms Macko discovered were steeped in sulfur-35, like other creatures that feed on sulfide-eating bacteria. Macko can even distinguish between rice and wheat-eaters from those who eat corn (thanks to the different enzymes with which crops turn sunlight into sugar, corn shows higher percentages of carbon-13). Macko's dietary sleuthing culminated last year in an appearance in "King Corn," a documentary about America's corn dependency. Using hair samples, Macko found that 65% of America's nutrition comes from subsidized corn agriculture.

Corn is pretty pervasive, heh.

Robert Callahan
12-07-2008, 02:41 PM
The Food and Drug Administration stated, referring to a process commonly used by the corn refining industry, that it "would not object to the use of the term ‘natural’ on a product containing the HFCS produced by [that] manufacturing process...."

The FDA didn't object to it, so it is true!

Allen Yeh
03-30-2009, 07:32 AM
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/thank_you_for_guzzling_corn_syrup

A new article, with no real new reasons but some interesting points nonetheless.

Scott Clark
03-30-2009, 03:46 PM
From the article:

Let me ask you this: where in nature could our hunter-gatherer ancestors quickly guzzle down 100 grams of sugar? You guessed it, nowhere. It just ain't natural. It astounds me that the human body can even deal with a Super Big Gulp. And actually, it doesn't deal with it very well.

Kinda funny seeing this on T-Nation, a site where whoring out refined sugar and artificial sweetener laden products is second to none. Interesting read nonetheless.