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Chris Puckett
12-07-2008, 05:24 PM
so.. nutritionally speaking, is there any real difference between how the body processes wheat and white bread? Fiber? And wouldn't there be far better sources of fiber? Struggling to see the miraculous benefits of the wheat kernal, and also trying to prove to my wife why whole wheat pancakes suck so I never have to eat them again. thanks.

Jay Cohen
12-08-2008, 04:52 AM
so.. nutritionally speaking, is there any real difference between how the body processes wheat and white bread? Fiber? And wouldn't there be far better sources of fiber? Struggling to see the miraculous benefits of the wheat kernal, and also trying to prove to my wife why whole wheat pancakes suck so I never have to eat them again. thanks.

Well Dude, you can "be right" or you can "be happy".

Your choice.

Mike ODonnell
12-08-2008, 06:16 AM
Fiber is Overhyped and Overrated. Stay away from Bran.
http://www.theiflife.com/2008/04/08/fiberoverhyped-how-much-do-you-really-need/

Daniel Labuz
12-08-2008, 06:30 AM
Grains themselves are overrated :)

Garrett Smith
12-08-2008, 07:58 AM
Make buckwheat pancakes, or Paleo pancakes. You can do it at the same time and keep the family happy.

Seriously, does your wife tell you what you will and won't eat? Shoot, just have some eggs and veggies, count the fiber grams, and let her see that grains don't have that much fiber at all...

Justin Algera
12-08-2008, 08:47 AM
Fact is, pancakes no matter what, are never going to be healthy... I absolutely love pancakes, tons of butter, syrup, etc and if I decide to eat them, Im going to enjoy them. No sense in trying to make them in some healthy manner because 1-it isnt happening, and 2-you arent going to enjoy them.

But Jay is right... Going to have to pick and choose your battles :)

Chris Puckett
12-08-2008, 08:52 AM
Make buckwheat pancakes, or Paleo pancakes. You can do it at the same time and keep the family happy.

Seriously, does your wife tell you what you will and won't eat? Shoot, just have some eggs and veggies, count the fiber grams, and let her see that grains don't have that much fiber at all...

Haha, I take it your single. No, we cook together daily, and we talk about food openly. We zoned together for a long time, so its not so much me being right, but bringing facts to the table. We also have a sense of humor.

Garrett Smith
12-08-2008, 11:11 AM
Chris,
Been married for five years, been with Cori a total of 11 years. No, I wouldn't say I'm single. No one would find me eating anything I didn't say "yes" to.

I'm the cook/chef of the house. About all Cori does is combine ingredients and bake them. If she refuses to eat something, she won't eat it either.

I agree with Justin, if you're going to have pancakes, heck, the word "cake" is in there, might as well make it enjoyable. There's no point to eating things you don't really like, especially if they are made with wheat.

If you would like to go with facts to the table, there are a ton of websites that you can go to and demonstrate the negatives of grains and the benefits of veggies. If you don't already get the www.thepaleodiet.com email newsletter, you should sign up, it's all about research.

I was mainly confused with your stance that you "had" to eat whole wheat pancakes. I have a sense of humor too... :-)

Chris Puckett
12-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Fact is, pancakes no matter what, are never going to be healthy... I absolutely love pancakes, tons of butter, syrup, etc and if I decide to eat them, Im going to enjoy them. No sense in trying to make them in some healthy manner because 1-it isnt happening, and 2-you arent going to enjoy them.

But Jay is right... Going to have to pick and choose your battles :)

thanks Justin, I have to get out to the BBB again soon, great job you guys did out there, I hope it keeps going. Been lifting at Chelsea Piers, close to home/work. I am really trying to find out if there is any truth to the myth that whole wheat is actually better than flour based bread products, not a general blanket statement that ALL grains are bad. I guess this is one I am picking, she can have the blue curtains.. :)

Stephen Brown
12-10-2008, 12:57 PM
and also trying to prove to my wife .

this is the problem, not the pancakes.

Michael Lynn
01-21-2009, 03:34 AM
I'm curious about this too. I understand that grains in general are unhealthy, but white vs wheat, which is the better choice if I'm going to indulge?

-Mike

Scott Kustes
01-21-2009, 05:48 AM
Is it possible that white could be "better" due to removal of more of the grain? While you'll get a bigger insulin response, you'll also get fewer antinutrients and such? I think I remember Robb making this point at some time. Whole wheat flour vs. white flour...one is only better in the same sense that 1 pack of cigarettes per day is better than 2.

Aimee Anaya Everett
01-21-2009, 05:31 PM
quoting a fabulous friend, "Gluten is DEATH".

Try gluten free pancakes! you can buy the mix at Trader Joes, and with blueberries, butter and syrup, you can hardly tell the difference. Then you won't have to decide on which is worse of the two bad things!

Adam Scheiner
01-25-2009, 08:41 PM
I'm curious about this too. I understand that grains in general are unhealthy, but white vs wheat, which is the better choice if I'm going to indulge?

-Mike
Personally I'd forgo both breads and go with the chocolate cake we had last time I was in Boston. Then wash it down with some mead. Mmmmmmm MEAD (various Homer Simpson noises):D

quoting a fabulous friend, "Gluten is DEATH".

Try gluten free pancakes! you can buy the mix at Trader Joes, and with blueberries, butter and syrup, you can hardly tell the difference. Then you won't have to decide on which is worse of the two bad things!

I had gluten free cookies a couple weeks back and was quite surprised by the absolute deliciousness to which you speak of. I'll have to get the pancakes next time I go shopping at TJs, but replace the blueberries with chocolate chips. BTW there apple wood bacon is the greatest thing I have ever tasted.

Ari Zablozki
02-22-2009, 08:50 AM
As we all know white flour is absolut crap.

In addition packaged whole wheat flour has been stripped of many of its nutrients and especially the oil in the kernels.

I believe if you are going to use flour products at all you need to really grind the wheat berries yourselves and make the pancakes from that flour. That would be your best bet for health.

Ben Fury
02-22-2009, 10:44 AM
Sugar is sugar is sugar. Do you want your sugar in a grunge brown wrapper? Or a nice shiny white wrapper? Style choice. Your still releasing just as much sugar into your system.

I'd just say, "No thank you!"