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Donald Lee
01-26-2009, 12:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6L_E0cEaZw

Thoughts?

Steven Low
01-26-2009, 07:01 PM
That's correct....

Nothing new or exciting... just physiology.

Donald Lee
01-26-2009, 07:51 PM
That's correct....

Nothing new or exciting... just physiology.

Good to know. I knew GH had a role in fat loss, but I didn't know it played the primary role and insulin played the secondary role.

Mike ODonnell
01-27-2009, 10:29 AM
GH does not peak in a high insulin environment. Glucagon also plays a role in releasing fat, which is directly inversely related to insulin. In the end....hormones just signal the fat stores to "empty the tanks"....you still have to burn the free fatty acids (FFAs) while in calorie deficit.

Donald Lee
01-27-2009, 12:08 PM
GH does not peak in a high insulin environment. Glucagon also plays a role in releasing fat, which is directly inversely related to insulin. In the end....hormones just signal the fat stores to "empty the tanks"....you still have to burn the free fatty acids (FFAs) while in calorie deficit.

Yeah, I already know about that, but what if you ate right before going to bed, when your GH spikes? Would that slow down your fat loss, even if you are at a caloric deficit?

Mike ODonnell
01-27-2009, 02:57 PM
Yeah, I already know about that, but what if you ate right before going to bed, when your GH spikes? Would that slow down your fat loss, even if you are at a caloric deficit?

Not ideal to eat a large carb meal right before bed....as you want optimal GH release. Other than that GH is released all day long in spikes.

Trygve Lunde
01-27-2009, 03:56 PM
what about 50-70g of veggies or other carb source before bed? or as a last meal of the day. Ive read that it is beneficial for weight loss. Eat your fat and protein during the day and eat all your carbs in one serving at the end of the day. Why and why not will that be beneficial do u think?

Steven Low
01-27-2009, 04:20 PM
what about 50-70g of veggies or other carb source before bed? or as a last meal of the day. Ive read that it is beneficial for weight loss. Eat your fat and protein during the day and eat all your carbs in one serving at the end of the day. Why and why not will that be beneficial do u think?
No. The largest spike in GH is pretty close after going to sleep.. within an hour or two. If you spike your carbs up like that you'll blunt the effect because insulin is higher than normal which leads to the smaller GH peaks.

Eat balanced meals during the day. Don't "save" up anything for the end, heh.

Grissim Connery
02-17-2009, 04:20 PM
what's the time frame for these spikes? would naps long enough to hit a high GH zone be optimal?

Steven Low
02-17-2009, 05:18 PM
Uhhh, I mean naps are good. Not sure about naps though for GH.

The largest spike after you go to sleep comes approximately 1 hour or so after falling asleep.

Gant Grimes
02-18-2009, 07:11 AM
what about 50-70g of veggies or other carb source before bed? or as a last meal of the day. Ive read that it is beneficial for weight loss. Eat your fat and protein during the day and eat all your carbs in one serving at the end of the day. Why and why not will that be beneficial do u think?

Where on earth did you read this?

Following what Steven said, you get your GH peak early in your sleep. So don't eat anything that's going to interfere with going to sleep or disturb you in the first few hours of sleep.

Mike ODonnell
02-18-2009, 07:57 AM
what about 50-70g of veggies or other carb source before bed? or as a last meal of the day. Ive read that it is beneficial for weight loss. Eat your fat and protein during the day and eat all your carbs in one serving at the end of the day. Why and why not will that be beneficial do u think?

Only reason I could see any logic for this is if your last meal is still 3 hours before bedtime....so your blood sugar spikes and then you are going to bed as it crashes....setting up a large GH response if the insulin is low.