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Garrett Smith
03-25-2009, 08:57 AM
I finally got this transferred to my computer, feedback is welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yY3ROzFzg8
This was done on 3/2/09, I set a new snatch PR of 85kg on 3/12/09 but I didn't get any video of that one. :(

Brian DeGennaro
03-25-2009, 09:22 AM
It's hard to tell without going through it frame by frame but it looked AWESOME. That was a great lift especially for a PR attempt. To improve upon it you can afford to make a snappier turnover, it seemed very lax. And I think the bar may have swung out an inch more than preferred.

Garrett Smith
03-25-2009, 09:28 AM
Brian,
I've been told (and it seems like it to me) that my form actually gets better the heavier I go--assuming I don't miss the lift, of course! My coach said my last PR attempt at my first OL meet (that was 77kg) was my best (form-wise) lift of the day.

Yes, it definitely could have been a snappier third pull. My coach has commented on the tiny loop--he wasn't terribly concerned as he said the bar consistently falls into a nice vertical groove on the catch.

Props to Greg Everett on putting me in the frog stance, that has done wonders for my OL. I need to get my ass up to Phoenix to work with my coach (the awesome PMenu author Matt Foreman) SOON. I can't seem to find any OL meets in AZ scheduled yet in 2009. I want to go set some more official PRs...

Brian DeGennaro
03-25-2009, 09:48 AM
That's when you start travelling to meets ;). You're lucky you have the "problem" of getting better as weight gets heavier.

Timothy Scalise
04-02-2009, 11:31 PM
I thought it was a great pull to be honest, yeah it could of been snappier, but it did fall right in the sweet spot so I dont really see that much of an issue. I thought you were gonna lose it at first when you stood, but then you did the reverse shrugs I let out a sigh of reliefe lol.

Garrett Smith
04-03-2009, 06:40 AM
Timothy,
I try to do three press-outs (reverse shrugs, tomayto, tomahto) on my heaviest set of the day every time I workout.

You should have seen how all over the place I was when I did 85kg a week later...I think I took three steps forward and two back in my recovery, but I still did my 3 press-outs!

Timothy Scalise
04-03-2009, 10:44 AM
I dance with the bar sometimes also on my heavy sets. hell sometimes when im doing 8 singles at 85% or 90% ill do a dance around the 4th set, then it kicks in and I do better for some reason.

Eddie Clark
04-22-2009, 04:31 PM
Garrett,
Great lift.
The only thing that I see that may coincide with the "floaty" turnover (it wasn't bad) is the starting position of your feet. Observe the distance between your feet when you start and when you land. Each of your feet jump out about 4 inches from where they started. So whats happening is a couple things.

1) you have to hang out a little longer in the air so that your feet can move out to your landing position

2)the more time you have to spend in the air the less time you have to generate force against the ground

Generally you only want your feet to pop out about half the width of one of your feet when you land. However you said that Greg showed you the "frog" stance. I am not familiar with that term but I am assuming that is where you lower your hips quite a bit at the start and push your knees forward of the bar on your starting position. Thus setting a chest up precedent from the beginning of the lift. I was wondering if part of the "frog" stance was also a narrower starting foot position? If that is the case then by all means continue because like I said earlier there wasn't anything bad about that lift that I could see.

Eddie

Brian DeGennaro
04-22-2009, 04:36 PM
The frog stance of lifting is typically employed by the Chinese. So you have a narrow foot placement along with a relatively wide turn out of the feet.

Eddie Clark
04-22-2009, 04:48 PM
OK.
I am assuming that technique really allows you to get your knees out of the way so that you can keep your hip and shoulder angle as vertical as possible. during the first pull?

Thanks.

Garrett Smith
04-22-2009, 05:07 PM
Eddie,
That's what it does for me, yes.

I have a really long torso, so I believe that the frog stance really helps me avoid the loopiness when going through the scoop if I can stay more vertical throughout.

Eddie Clark
04-22-2009, 05:27 PM
Garrett,
Again great lift. I would love to see your 85kg attempt. My PR snatch is only 75kg. I have gotten under 80kg but I was apprehensive and missed out front. I will be posting a video up soon myself. I am sure I have many more issues that can be highlighted than yourself:)

Good luck!

Garrett Smith
04-22-2009, 09:10 PM
Thanks Eddie.

I'm planning on getting video of the meet on 5/2, so hopefully I'll get those posted up...I'm planning on at least one in the PR thread! :)