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Steve Shafley
02-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Taurine is, if anything, even cheaper than ZMA. At Beyond-A-Century it's 300 grams for $5.75, and it's completely tasteless.

I find that if I use 6-9 grams of L-taurine with the ZMA that I don't have that window of opportunity with regards to getting to sleep.

If you have this problem, and I know a few of you do, try taking 9 grams of taurine before bed. If that works, titrate it down to the least effective dose. IIRC, 1 teaspoon = ~3 grams of L-taurine.

For some reason the L-taurine itself helps me with sleep. At one point in time I knew why, but I don't anymore, and I'm too lazy to look it up at this time.

Cheap fix for a common problem.

Mike ODonnell
02-05-2007, 07:19 PM
"Taurine also functions as a neuroregulator and nerve cell growth factor. It promotes a calming effect by inhibiting the release of norepinephrine and acetylcholine, and stimulating the release of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Taurine increases the production of serotonin and melatonin by stimulating the activity of N-acetyltransferase, resulting in normalization of sleep and nerve functioning."

or something like that....good tip

Robb Wolf
02-06-2007, 06:56 AM
Good stuff! I forgot about Taurine...used it years ago. MOD- you big smarty pants!

Mike ODonnell
02-06-2007, 07:06 AM
MOD- you big smarty pants!

My evil plan is working....thanks to Google and Cut and Paste technology I appear to become the ruling expert so only to sell more of my E-Books....wait....am I thinking out loud again....damn unfreezing process...

Ronnie Ashlock
02-06-2007, 07:35 AM
Is this the same taurine that's touted as the magical ingredient in Red Bull (and has it's origins from bull liver but is now synthesised in labs)?

Allen Yeh
03-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Steve,

How has the taurine+ZMA going for you? I just switched to the biotest brand ZMA last week and the past 2 nights if I get woken up at all I'm awake for hours, tired but unable to fall asleep.

I was originally taking the GNC ZMA (2 months) which was Zinc arginate as opposed to the biotest brand which is aspartate. That's the only difference really between the 2 products, I think.

Steve Shafley
03-15-2007, 05:07 AM
I ran out of taurine.

I've been taking care to really make sure I get to sleep in the window of opportunity.

Derek Simonds
04-08-2007, 12:06 PM
I started taking ZMA 3 nights ago. The first night slept like a log, second night woke up once or twice and last night was just crazy. I was up and down all night long. Really vivid sleep / dream sequences. I wasn't exhausted this morning just didn't sleep like normal.

I also seem to be much more thirsty and drinking water more often. I will keep going to see how it washes out.

I went with the Vitamin Shop brand and it is Zinc Asperate

Robert Allison
04-08-2007, 12:49 PM
I've been taking ZMA for about three weeks now. It has improved the quality of my sleep, and helped with recovery. About two weeks ago, I started taking about 2 g of taurine along with the ZMA. It seems to prevent some of the problems with waking up during the night, but I still had crazy dreams.

I also ran out of the taurine... I may try that brand Steve recommended. It is less expensive than the stuff I picked up at the local health food store.

Dave Van Skike
04-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Taurine is, if anything, even cheaper than ZMA. At Beyond-A-Century it's 300 grams for $5.75, and it's completely tasteless.

I find that if I use 6-9 grams of L-taurine with the ZMA that I don't have that window of opportunity with regards to getting to sleep.

If you have this problem, and I know a few of you do, try taking 9 grams of taurine before bed. If that works, titrate it down to the least effective dose. IIRC, 1 teaspoon = ~3 grams of L-taurine.

For some reason the L-taurine itself helps me with sleep. At one point in time I knew why, but I don't anymore, and I'm too lazy to look it up at this time.

Cheap fix for a common problem.

Smart. Will give that a try.

Pierre Auge
04-09-2007, 07:48 PM
WEIRDEST THING EVER JUST HAPPENED!!!

I took some ZMA tabs about 5 minutes ago swallowed them down at least I thought I had with a big glass of water. I just caughed and I guess half of one of the tabs was caught in the back of my throat without me noticing??? I caughed, sneezed and a big puff of white powder blew out of my nose then the tab fell down the back of my throat.

Where the fk the tab was I don't know and how the fk it got there even less but geeeze that was weird!

Steve Shafley
04-10-2007, 05:10 AM
Ha! It was in your sinuses.

A few times a year, I will get some food or something up in my sinuses and I have to blow it out my nose. Interesting party trick, though often painful.

Allen Yeh
04-10-2007, 07:03 AM
I ended uo getting used to the Biotest ZMA, that first week though was very sleepless. My only guess was that my body was able to notice a difference between the types of Zinc being used? (A lame guess to be sure but everything else was pretty much the same, well the same as much as having 3 kids can be).

I hate to say it but I do like the Biotest ZMA much better than the GNC stuff, not to mention the fact that the Biotest stuff doesn't STINK like I have no idea what!

Elliot Royce
04-10-2007, 12:41 PM
a big puff of white powder blew out of my nose Honest, Officer, it was just a ZMA tab that blew back.....yeah right....

John Alston
04-10-2007, 01:16 PM
I am one of those that can't sleep at all on ZMA. I ended up taking all my ZMA in the morning for fear of sleeplessness.
I don't trust myself with a sleep window, there's too much potential from the noisy neighbors.
I might try the taurine trick, though slowly with the ZMA. I only do my Mg in the A.M. now, after that bad ZMA nights.
Anyone know what ZMA (mg?) keeps one up so bad?

liz neufeldt
09-02-2009, 05:03 AM
Taurine will definitely help with sleep issues. It helps you fall asleep more easily and sleep well. And it's one of those things you really kind of need if you are working out intensely anyway. The body makes taurine (http://www.seacoastvitamins.com/topic.php?health=taurine), but for those who have intense workouts, it gets depleted faster than the body can replenish its stores of it. It will help you feel more refreshed and energized with those workouts.