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Steve Shafley
12-18-2009, 10:24 AM
To gay porn sites.

Classy!

Just go to any XF link on the couch thread and see for yourself. Currently referring to Boundgods.com, a gay S&M site. Previously it was to meatspin.com

Allen Yeh
12-18-2009, 10:32 AM
Wait is this the 1st sign of the apocalypse?

Steve Shafley
12-18-2009, 10:34 AM
No. To be honest, this is probably like gas thrown on a fire. On a scale of 1 to 10 for nastiness, I'm about a 3. The folks at 7+ are probably going to go apeshit about this.

Garrett Smith
12-18-2009, 12:07 PM
Sounds like a backfire to me. Good thing the actual quotes are posted so often, so they are easily found by decent Google-fu.

Mike ODonnell
12-18-2009, 03:40 PM
Ok....that is funny on some level...the war on links. Although pissing off people at IGX is not the smartest idea.

Derek Weaver
12-18-2009, 03:49 PM
Wow. CF admins have decided that instead of 'open source' and intelligent debate and conversation, they'll route links through outside forums for discussion to porn sites instead of their threads. Like one can't still go on the forum to lurk, copy and paste.

4th grade problem resolution at its best.

Tom Woodward
12-18-2009, 04:35 PM
Like someone on IGX said, a childish, petty reaction like a link redirect to a porn site is not the MO of a professional corporation. It would be like an athlete or celebrity publicly attacking every disparaging blog post or tabloid story about them. Just fans the flames and makes you look bad.

Steve Shafley
12-18-2009, 04:43 PM
You can pretty much consider anything on IGx not safe for work.

Did anyone else notice the similarities between the scenes pictured on "Boundgods" and some of the shirtless pics featured on the XF mainpage?

Ganine Vanalst
12-18-2009, 07:46 PM
I sorta got a chuckle out of it at first. But then all day today I couldn't get that damn song out of my head "You spin me right round, baby right round. Like a record, baby right round round round. You spin me right round, baby right round. Like a record, baby right round round round. You spin me right round, baby right round. Like a record, baby right round round round ...." Please make it stop make it stop!!!!!!!!!!!!

Derek Weaver
12-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Thanks Ganine. I had my speaker turned off on my computer and didn't hear the music or anything else. Now I have that song stuck in my head.

the more I think about this whole thing the more I can't believe I actually spent so much time invovled with CF... I wish I hadn't spent the money on a cert.

George Mounce
12-18-2009, 09:02 PM
The CrossFit Mods get off on gay porn and wanted to share their love of it with people.

How very nice of them to show us what they think about all day long.

Ganine Vanalst
12-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Thanks Ganine. I had my speaker turned off on my computer and didn't hear the music or anything else. Now I have that song stuck in my head.

Sorry, Derek. Unfortunately, as with the refractory period, the only thing that will help is time.

If it starts to drive you too crazy, try this:

They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...

At least it breaks up the monotony a bit.

Gavin Harrison
12-18-2009, 09:27 PM
Crossfit.com doesn't redirect, only the forums. Lynn Pitt's angst is coming through?

Shane Skowron
12-18-2009, 11:34 PM
Someone posted this on the technical support forum:

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53931

I have been trying to browse the message board, but I keep getting redirected to NSFW sites like devicebondage.com and hogtied.com. The sites are really gross. I have tried from two different browsers, so I don't think it is my machine. Any ideas on what the problem is? Thanks/Brian

Either that's a lurker stirring the pot, or the backlash attempt has utterly failed.

Robert Callahan
12-19-2009, 01:40 AM
the more I think about this whole thing the more I can't believe I actually spent so much time invovled with CF... I wish I hadn't spent the money on a cert.

I am just happy that the two certs I spent money on were Rip's and Robb's....

Darryl Shaw
12-19-2009, 04:49 AM
Sorry, Derek. Unfortunately, as with the refractory period, the only thing that will help is time.

If it starts to drive you too crazy, try this:

They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...They do what they wanna do, say what they wanna say, Live how they wanna live, play how they wanna play, Dance how they wanna dance, kick and they slap a friend, the Addams family...

At least it breaks up the monotony a bit.

I've no idea why but you've reminded of Safety Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qW0Edq1KqI&feature=fvw) by Men Without Hats...... and it's now stuck in my head. :(

Robert Johnson
12-19-2009, 05:00 AM
Someone posted this on the technical support forum:

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53931

I have been trying to browse the message board, but I keep getting redirected to NSFW sites like devicebondage.com and hogtied.com. The sites are really gross. I have tried from two different browsers, so I don't think it is my machine. Any ideas on what the problem is? Thanks/Brian

Either that's a lurker stirring the pot, or the backlash attempt has utterly failed.

This post never existed.

Darryl Shaw
12-19-2009, 05:03 AM
Crossfit.com doesn't redirect, only the forums. Lynn Pitt's angst is coming through?

I think people may be being a little unfair to Lynne Pitts. I had a pm from her a few days ago about one of my posts and in my reply I explained my position and spelled out exactly why I object to the whole Crossfit/Sears/Zone situation. I fully expected to be banned for this so to give credit where it's due I have to say that Lynne treated me fairly and chose not to ban me or censor my post.

Brandon Oto
12-19-2009, 07:03 AM
Lynne sez:

I'm sure there are no links on our site redirecting to bad places; I guess you must mean that there are bad places redirecting you to porn sites. Sorry to hear that - you have to be careful on the internet!

I'll have our tech guys take a look, just in case. See why we ask everyone to be sure to label their links?

You should really check with the tech support of the site Robert referred to.


hahahahahahahahaha

Now they're just hamming up the role of evil Ministry of Truth enforcers for laughs.

Tom Rawls
12-19-2009, 07:28 AM
Lynne treated me fairly and chose not to ban me or censor my post.

Earthshaking magnanimity.

Nick Wilson
12-19-2009, 08:46 AM
I doubt it's Lynne Pitts who actually set it up since it would need to be done in the Apache config files, not in the forums (more likely to be Ron or whatever the guy's name is who admins the forum site). I doubt it would be something a server admin would do without being asked to though, so I find it unlikely that someone didn't know about it. Whether that's Lynne or not, I don't know.

The original thread got closed, I started another and have got a timer running on when it gets closed too. There's already been one "HQ would never do anything like that" reply - because we all know HQ can do no wrong.

Hey, maybe we're being unfair and their board's been hacked. And instead of doing any damage at all, the hacker only decided to set up redirects coming from one very specific referrer. Yeah, I bet that's it...

Chris Sullivan
12-19-2009, 08:53 AM
Lynne wrote:
"I'm sure there are no links on our site redirecting to bad places; I guess you must mean that there are bad places redirecting you to porn sites. Sorry to hear that - you have to be careful on the internet!

I'll have our tech guys take a look, just in case. See why we ask everyone to be sure to label their links?

You should really check with the tech support of the site Robert referred to."

Interesting statement. No where in her response is a denial that the crossfit servers are referring users to porn sites. What Lynne said was that she is sure that none of the links on the crossfit site are redirecting users to "bad" places. The militant policing of links on the site provides her with this assurance. Lynne also lets us know what she thinks of irongarmx: a bad place that redirects you to porn sites. Finally, the enjoyment she takes by underlining the "WFS" rule is obvious and it speaks volumes about the entire charge of redirecting the web traffic. I'm sure there will be a thorough and complete investigation into it, though. Maybe crossfit should hire the same group of people that OJ used to "take a look." ;)

I was hoping to attend a few certs when I retire and actually contemplated trying to affiliate some day (I need a bunch of training and education first). After watching this all go down, I'd be surprised if anyone does business with them.

Greg Everett
12-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Lynne = good people. Whoever did it, she had nothing to do with it.

Tom Rawls
12-19-2009, 09:59 AM
But she appears happy to cover for the culprit(s).

Accessory after the fact.

Greg Everett
12-19-2009, 10:05 AM
Tough to give up good employment over moral objections these days... Even without the threat of some kind of paramilitary team swooping in while she's sleeping dropping her off in Siberia.

Mike ODonnell
12-19-2009, 10:08 AM
Lots of "shenanigans" going on.....

(I just really love using the word "shenanigans" as much as possible)

Robb Wolf
12-19-2009, 10:10 AM
Tough to give up good employment over moral objections these days... Even without the threat of some kind of paramilitary team swooping in while she's sleeping dropping her off in Siberia.

I'm still waiting for the rendition team. I hope they do not start with the feet...

peace warson
12-19-2009, 10:11 AM
nothing new. folks at igx are fucking hilarious. sometimes a bit harsh, but pretty insightful in their criticism of cf. not all just hate and bile.
the forgers of elite fitness are under some serious fire, and someone should probably sit down and think about taking care of business appropriately and quickly.

Chris Sullivan
12-19-2009, 10:56 AM
Lynne = good people. Whoever did it, she had nothing to do with it.

I think it's a shame that good people are caught up in this. This whole situation, including the years of buildup, smacks of poor leadership at crossfit.

It seems to me that the company grew, in part, from traffic at the main site. Today's newbies at the site are tomorrow's seminar attendees and affiliates. How can the leadership of the company allow for the continued "shenanigans" over there (Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy s**t on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?) :p They can't ask the consumer to look the other way or ignore the incredible moderation of material and information. And to allow for the porn site referrals? Without some type of statement, it appears to me that it's allowed or condoned.

This is a "bull by the horns" problem for the company, but no one appears to be capable of grabbing it and taking charge. Some type of official statement would be a good start; one that isn't buried in the comments on the affiliate blog and one given by someone who has some intestinal fortitude. How about addressing Castro's actions and the apparent vindictive actions since then? I still can't believe the only statement from management was delivered in such a cowardly manner and was used as a vehicle to insult Robb's credibility.

I am just blown away by the entire situation, which may say something bad about me. But I am the consumer so I suppose I am entitled to an opinion.

Mike ODonnell
12-19-2009, 11:30 AM
It seems to me that the company grew, in part, from traffic at the main site. Today's newbies at the site are tomorrow's seminar attendees and affiliates. How can the leadership of the company allow for the continued "shenanigans" over there (Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy s**t on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?)

All newbies must have at least 14 pieces of flare.....except in this case each piece seems to cost $1000 a pop.

Edit: I ramble too much.....

Aaron Austin
12-19-2009, 12:17 PM
Well, ok, 14 is minimum, ok?
Now, it’s up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum.

Tom Rawls
12-19-2009, 12:41 PM
Tough to give up good employment over moral objections these days.

It has always been tough. It is in such everyday decisions that morality and ethics are manifested. If one abdicates making the decision, then (s)he chooses the path of amorality, and potentially acquiesces in becoming the tool of the immoral/unethical.

Good people don't forgo making these decisions. In fact, to be "good," you have to accept the responsibility and decide. Otherwise self-defining choices are made serendipitously for you. You cannot by a good person under such circumstances. You might get lucky, though.

Patrick Donnelly
12-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Lynne = good people. Whoever did it, she had nothing to do with it...

Tough to give up good employment over moral objections these days... Even without the threat of some kind of paramilitary team swooping in while she's sleeping dropping her off in Siberia.

What do you mean by "employment?" The CF Mods constantly bitch about working as volunteers, and the sheeple always bless them for it. If Lynne's getting paid to be a dick... Well, then I think she's found her dream job.

Mike ODonnell
12-19-2009, 03:23 PM
Well, ok, 14 is minimum, ok?
Now, itís up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum.

http://blogs.4bauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/brian.jpg

I hate that guy....

Greg Everett
12-19-2009, 03:28 PM
What do you mean by "employment?" The CF Mods constantly bitch about working as volunteers, and the sheeple always bless them for it. If Lynne's getting paid to be a dick... Well, then I think she's found her dream job.

I mean the meaning of the word. Confusing, I know.

Robert Johnson
12-20-2009, 01:57 AM
Both threads have gone now. Pretty cool to be a disappeared thread and then come back for one last chance at glory.

Aaron Austin
12-20-2009, 06:22 AM
http://blogs.4bauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/brian.jpg

I hate that guy....

Hahaha lol.

peace warson
12-20-2009, 10:36 AM
careful about posting on igx now, though. they're getting a little "elite" over there, ha..

Gant Grimes
12-20-2009, 11:35 AM
I can't think of a single professional business entity that would intentionally redirect links to porn sites. Classy move, guys.

But Lynne is good people. Unfortunately her position requires that she contain the fires starting by the likes of Couch, Pudding, and Castro. We obviously disagree on many things CF, but she is a legitimately strong chick and could out lift most CF guys. We had a nice visit before my (voluntary) departure. Too bad she's not doing the programming over there.

Welcome back Shaf and Gary (http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/first_person_dan_john&cr=) to the fray. They're old members from a time when people had a good idea of what they were talking about before posting. Be nice to get back to that.

Finally, and this is for all the new members, the point of this forum is not just for CF opposition. However, a lot of the members here are current or recovering CFers and would like to stay informed and discuss current events, which can't currently be done elsewhere. So stay on topic and please limit the criticism to Couch, Pudding, Castro, and others in charge (don't blast the individual kool-aid drinkers, many of whom are good people).

If you're unsure, here is an example:

Acceptable: Criticizing an obese, drunken, rambling intergalactic warlord who created a fitness cult a decade ago.

Not as acceptable: Criticizing an obese, rambling, drunken, rambling forum member.

Acceptable: Criticizing a person in an extra medium t-shirt (with an XL gut) doing a movement he has no business doing for a guy he has no business talking to.

http://www.crossfitbernardsville.com/uploads/bernardsville/image/IMG_0389.JPG

Shane Skowron
12-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Extra medium :D

Steve Shafley
12-20-2009, 12:28 PM
The redirection of XF.com links posted on IGx is not being done from the IGx side. I've double checked this with the admins on IGx.

The forum admins of XF.com DO NOT have the ability to redirect links, only the folks who delve into the deeper functions of the XF.com website can.

So, Lynne's not doing it.

Lynne's continual denial of it happening on the XF.com side makes her looks like a dupe and stupid.

I don't know if it's still happening now, my IP was down for the last day or so.

Derek Weaver
12-20-2009, 12:37 PM
I can't think of a single professional business entity that would intentionally redirect links to porn sites. Classy move, guys.

But Lynne is good people. Unfortunately her position requires that she contain the fires starting by the likes of Couch, Pudding, and Castro. We obviously disagree on many things CF, but she is a legitimately strong chick and could out lift most CF guys. We had a nice visit before my (voluntary) departure. Too bad she's not doing the programming over there.

Welcome back Shaf and Gary (http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/first_person_dan_john&cr=) to the fray. They're old members from a time when people had a good idea of what they were talking about before posting. Be nice to get back to that.

Finally, and this is for all the new members, the point of this forum is not just for CF opposition. However, a lot of the members here are current or recovering CFers and would like to stay informed and discuss current events, which can't currently be done elsewhere. So stay on topic and please limit the criticism to Couch, Pudding, Castro, and others in charge (don't blast the individual kool-aid drinkers, many of whom are good people).

If you're unsure, here is an example:

Acceptable: Criticizing an obese, drunken, rambling intergalactic warlord who created a fitness cult a decade ago.

Not as acceptable: Criticizing an obese, rambling, drunken, rambling forum member.

Acceptable: Criticizing a person in an extra medium t-shirt (with an XL gut) doing a movement he has no business doing for a guy he has no business talking to.

http://www.crossfitbernardsville.com/uploads/bernardsville/image/IMG_0389.JPG

Well said Gant.

Kevin Perry
12-20-2009, 02:22 PM
This thing is fucking ridiculous, have you guys read that new post on Robbs page?

Derek Weaver
12-20-2009, 02:43 PM
Couch is so full of garbage*. At his own Level 1 cert when they go over nutrition they point out that Fitness in 100 words lays out the Paleo Diet. They then go on to note that Zoning will improve performance over Paleo alone. I disagree, but still.

It's incredible they'll discredit themselves so heavily while trying to discredit Robb and Gregg.

Mike ODonnell
12-20-2009, 02:50 PM
at least no one at the seminar got redirected to a porn seminar.....

George Noble
12-20-2009, 02:59 PM
http://www.crossfitbernardsville.com/uploads/bernardsville/image/IMG_0389.JPG

That is adorable.

Patrick Donnelly
12-20-2009, 04:23 PM
I mean the meaning of the word. Confusing, I know.
Seeing as how I've always heard that the CF moderators volunteer their time and "employment" generally refers to paid work, yes, it is.


David Wood was a good guy. Too bad he left; the boards could really use his sensibility right now.



Also, it seems that links from IGx to the CF boards now just redirect back to IGx, not porn.

Greg Everett
12-20-2009, 05:39 PM
Seeing as how I've always heard that the CF moderators volunteer their time and "employment" generally refers to paid work, yes, it is.

OK I'll be clearer: Lynne Pitts is paid, as an employee, by CF Inc for her various duties, one of which is board moderation.

Aimee Anaya Everett
12-20-2009, 06:20 PM
all-
We are giving people the freedom to discuss certain happenings in the world of crossfit, and we are being more lenient then in the past. However, as Gant said, keep things a discussion, and bashing to those who deserve bashing. But there is a place for the extreme, and we will keep that at Irongarm. Whatever discussions that take place over here need to be kept to just that, or I will shut down the thread. I want ya'll to feel free to discuss, but keep the shenanigans to a minimum. Despite recent occurrences, we are still going to remain civil folks who supply good information, even if we want to shout certain obscenities from the roof tops.

Also, no Lynne bashing. She has always been very good to us here at CA.

Justin Algera
12-20-2009, 06:30 PM
And I prefer the term smedium to extra-medium... Just rolls of the tongue better and you can abbreviate it to smeeds.

George Noble
12-20-2009, 06:31 PM
What the fuck does extra medium mean anyway? I don't think we have that here. I saw something about it on EFS and I thought it was a joke.

Donald Lee
12-20-2009, 06:36 PM
I'm not a moderator or anything, but could people stop cursing on this forum? Please? :)

Also, am I the only one who thinks all this complaining has gotten a bit childish?

peace warson
12-20-2009, 07:12 PM
fuck that shit!

just kidding, donald. but really, stop cursing? come on, man..

Ganine Vanalst
12-20-2009, 07:41 PM
I'm not a moderator or anything, but could people stop cursing on this forum? Please? :)

I myself do curse a lot. I'll stop in my posts since it offends you and I apologize if I've done so; I am aware others likely feel the same. I have an irreverent sense of humor and very little is off limits with me but I sometimes forget others have different sensitivity levels to things.

I do find it interesting though that people give so much power to a word. I am not passing judgment, just really do find it fascinating. I've thought it through often since I do curse so much; I have concluded for myself personally that in the greater scheme of things it's just not that important. I just can't get myself all that concerned over words unless they convey a specific intent like malice, etc., in the mind of the user. I do understand an implication of that is that some people will judge you solely passed on the use of those words and draw conclusions regarding your character on that criteria alone, but I suspect that might ultimately reveal more about them.

Take the words sh*t (I think you know what I meant :D ) and shot. The only thing that has changed is replacing a single letter, but what a difference that letter makes.

There is little book called "English as a Second F**king Language," written by an English college professor, here is an excerpt:

"Four centuries ago, Shakespeare-one of the greatest communicators the English language has ever known-put his stamp of approval on swearing. In The Tempest he has a character say:

You taught me language; and my profit on't Is, I know how to curse.

The Bard had more to say on the subject. In Henry V, he shows us Katherine, a young French woman, as she takes a lesson in English. When she learns that the English words "foot" and "gown" sound like the French words foutre and con-"f**k" and c**t-she's delighted. She repeats them again and again.

Is this Katherine some kind of low life? Far from it! She ends up as Queen of England and France! If swearing is good enough for Shakespeare and for the Queen of England and France-you can bet your a$$ it's good enough for us. And for you."

So, that said, I myself will stop cursing since I know others find it offensive, but just wanted to express my view on the subject since, again, I find it an interesting topic. And I hope nobody here reads French and is offended by the above quote, if so, my apologies in advance :D


Also, am I the only one who thinks all this complaining has gotten a bit childish?

In my opinion it can serve a useful purpose if it identifies and sheds light on problems that need to be addressed and allows people to express feelings and frustrations so they can move on instead of suppressing those feelings and frustrations and letting them fester, but it does become gratuitous and counterproductive past a certain point as well.

Dave Van Skike
12-20-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm not a moderator or anything, but could people stop cursing on this forum? Please? :)

Also, am I the only one who thinks all this complaining has gotten a bit childish?

WTF are you talking about?

Steve Shafley
12-21-2009, 01:06 PM
The porn thing is gone. No longer will manfucking be seen if you follow an XF link from IGx.

Jamila Bey
12-22-2009, 01:09 PM
I myself do curse a lot... I have an irreverent sense of humor and very little is off limits with me but I sometimes forget others have different sensitivity levels to things.

I do find it interesting though that people give so much power to a word. I am not passing judgment, just really do find it fascinating. I've thought it through often since I do curse so much; I have concluded for myself personally that in the greater scheme of things it's just not that important. I just can't get myself all that concerned over words unless they convey a specific intent like malice, etc., in the mind of the user.

How in the hell have we never met?

I have a total girl crush all over you Ganine!!!

Gant Grimes
12-22-2009, 01:31 PM
No longer will manfucking be seen if you follow an XF link from IGx.

I have not found that to be the case.*










*Though the referrer seems to be fixed.

Ron Nelson
12-22-2009, 01:56 PM
The porn thing is gone. No longer will manfucking be seen if you follow an XF link from IGx.

Did you not see the request to stop the cussing. Not only will it get you excommunicated again; it sounds like shit.

With that, I crawl back into obscurity.

Arien Malec
12-22-2009, 04:48 PM
Did you not see the request to stop the cussing. Not only will it get you excommunicated again; it sounds like shit.

With that, I crawl back into obscurity.

See Gary John's posting on IGx:

Also, their forum throws in a cuss work every now and then so they can feel edgy.

Ganine Vanalst
12-23-2009, 02:19 AM
How in the hell have we never met?

Perhaps it's because like you I am "a lifelong outcast and outsider." I even named my affiliate (now ex-affiliate) CrossFit MisFit to reflect that aspect of myself. Also, I wanted to appeal to others who didn't quite fit in themselves and thought the name would be fun and less intimidating. The name turned out to be quite prophetic in retrospect.


I have a total girl crush all over you Ganine!!!

Why thank you, Jamila. Ya know, I have been known to be an open minded kinda girl LOL.

BTW, thanks for the friend request!

Tom Rawls
12-23-2009, 08:04 PM
Girl on girl action.

That's cool. And understandable given POD's dismissal of your invitation.

George Mounce
12-24-2009, 07:34 AM
Did you not see the request to stop the cussing. Not only will it get you excommunicated again; it sounds like shit.

With that, I crawl back into obscurity.

Pot calling the kettle black?

peace warson
12-24-2009, 09:19 AM
i think/hope that he was just taking the piss..