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Wendy Nelson
12-22-2009, 12:14 PM
Could someone tell me if the Pendlay barbell end cap has always had a snap ring?

http://www.pendlaybarbell.com/penebucl.html w/f/s/

Derek Simonds
12-22-2009, 02:30 PM
My Pendlay bar does not have the snap ring. It is probably 3 years old and was the nicer mens bar when I bought it. It is a pressed in metal cap. I actually had to remove one side because the cap got dented and was preventing the sleeve from turning.

Hope that helps.

Arien Malec
12-22-2009, 04:47 PM
Glenn has a forum now....

http://pendlayforum.com/index.php

Don't know if you can cuss on it.

Wendy Nelson
12-22-2009, 07:34 PM
Thanks that does help, I was wondering about past bars they produced. Seems like there are a lot more offerings for barbells these days. Makes it hard to choose:confused:

I took a peek at the new Pendlay forum too and maybe some reviews of the new nexgen bar will pop up there.

Steve Liberati
12-22-2009, 08:47 PM
Not sure about the new bars but we bought several Pendlay bars about a year and a half ago and sad to say we were very dissappointed with the craftmanship of it. After only using for a few months the metallic coating at each end of the bar peeled off, creating metal splinters. I sent in pictures to where we bought them from and they assured me they would contact the manufacturer about the issue and get back to me...but after several emails over a month going back and forth I never heard a thing about it.

Wendy Nelson
12-22-2009, 11:39 PM
Well that probably explains why they have changed so much and switched the manufacturing process. If I thought I would appreciate WerkSan I would spend the money but I fear all that goodness would be lost on me.

Thanks for the heads up.

garrett stack
12-23-2009, 01:17 AM
I have one of the old Pendlay bars with the black oxide shaft no centre knurling and pressed endcap .
I still think its a great bar and that the knurling is just right , like an old eleiko.
There is a werksan in the club that I lift in that tears the hands off me every time I use it.

I recently pulled the sleeves and cleaned and relubed them and the bar is good as new.

Wendy Nelson
12-24-2009, 09:19 AM
Youtube had some great vids on bar comparisons and I think I will roll the dice with Pendlay. 2010 will be a year of going overhead :D

Thanks for the help!

glennpendlay
12-28-2009, 12:29 AM
Thanks Wendy. If you have any problems or questions, shoot me an email, glennpendlay@muscledriverusa.com

glenn

Butch White
12-28-2009, 09:22 PM
I purchased one of the Pendlay NexGen bars in the early Fall and so far I am quite pleased. I had been using an old WFW econo bar and the NexGen is definitely an upgrade. The NexGen knurling is much better and the bar spins much more freely.

I wish I could justify the high end Werksan gear but with 3 numb nuts in college my equipment budget is a bit limited. Cheap ass bumpers plus a decent bar will have to do for now.

Wendy Nelson
12-29-2009, 08:56 AM
I'm sure someday the numb nuts will thank you for your great sacrifice! Glad to hear the bar is working out, mine should be here in a coupla days!

glennpendlay
01-09-2010, 06:37 PM
Butch,

I am glad you like the nexgen bars. caleb and donny train with them everyday, we also have a couple of the new needle bearing bars, but at least one of my lifters, sometimes more than one is on the nexgen HD every day, and they dont mind them at all. Today caleb did a couple of 185kg clean and jerks on the nexgen HD bar, and rachael did a 120kg clean and a set of 5 with 125kg in the back squat (not bad for a chick!!!) on the HD bar...

anyway, we continue to test them with what i think are weights in excess of what most are doing... we want to make the best bar we can. if you have any specific comments on the bar, please email me or something... love to hear ffeedback...

glenn

Greg Everett
01-10-2010, 08:59 AM
Glenn was kind enough to send us one to check out, and so far it's holding up well. I wouldn't sell them if I didn't think it was a good product.

Daniel Hartmann
02-19-2010, 07:37 PM
Can anyone comment on how the HD bar compares to the Samson bar Werksan sells?

John Janecek
09-19-2012, 03:07 PM
Glenn was kind enough to send us one to check out, and so far it's holding up well. I wouldn't sell them if I didn't think it was a good product.


Greg,

This post of yours is a couple years old, hows the bars holding up?

I am looking at getting bars for my 22 platforms at my high school soon.

I have trained on Elieko many times and love them (just sold my old training bar to a friend who's cheap garage bar broke, I think my bar was atleast 10-15 years old and worked great)....

I know Glenn and trust him, I TRUST that the Eleiko bars will be here till I retire, and I have known Leo for over 15 years and trust him so can't go wrong with Werksan either if I can get them...

Just curious, if you could do it all over and had the money to put new training bars on ALL your platforms what would you do?

I guess we all know by now if TROY bumper made a bar what I'd say about that...By the way, got the VTX's as replacements for them-25's are already starting to work loose on the metal part, great bumpers these people make....

John Janecek

Greg Everett
09-19-2012, 03:19 PM
We still use Werksan as our real barbell. We have 2-3 of them per platform and that is really what our lifters use. We just ordered more in fact. We do have a good number of the new pendlay/MD bars that are used mainly for squatting and for our lifting classes since we're not as concerned about them getting abused by non-weightlifters who don't always have the same respect for equipment as lifters do.

The pendlay bars are reasonably good for the price, but nothing compares to werksan or eleiko, no matter how badly people want it to. We have had the same werksan bars in here since we moved to this location almost 4 years ago and they are in perfect working order.

The only issue we've ever had with a werksan bar is a broken snap ring on my own barbell that I bought in 2006 - and that was from one of the aforementioned non-lifters dropping it crooked. They sent me a new snap ring kit and I replaced it and have been training on it again with no problems since.

Honestly, I've been telling people for years that if you really want a CHEAP bar, go with the black BFS bar - I have used those for our general clientelle since 2004 and they hold up great, spin surprisingly well, and don't bend easily. Granted, these are not being used by weightlifters, but we do have some pretty strong clients using them multiple times daily for squats, deads, and even Olympic lifts. I've squatted on them at times when the gym was crowded at 180+ and not had a problem. And for $130 or so a pop, you don't care so much if they do get damaged.

John Janecek
09-19-2012, 04:56 PM
It looks like we'll buy them sometime soon(?) so the info is really appreciatted.

I'm a pain in the ass to these kids here about dropping bars, they set them down till they have bumpers on them then they have to drop them a certain way to guide them to to ground.

I watch those videos of those guys warming up for the olympics and they just throw those nice new bars on the ground, makes me sick...I wonder how many times you can do that with a nice bar before it breaks or bends?

Thats one reason I would never buy a bar thats been used at one of those meets, I'll get the one bar thats trashed.....

Greg Everett
09-19-2012, 07:41 PM
Yes, I have the same problem - people don't respect equipment they don't have to pay for. I yell at the people in the gym on a fairly regular basis for treating gear like shit, because I DO have to pay for it.

John Janecek
09-19-2012, 08:18 PM
I don't have to pay for it BUT my job is to keep things in order in a 6,000 sq ft wtroom with over 500 athletes a day coming through....

If it breaks the AD wants to know why I didn't tell them "not to do that", like you it never ends...

You think those bars last long that they just throw down?? I even saw a video of this chinese hwt gal at THEIR OWN training facility warming up with a nice bar than just BAM throws it on the ground from about chest ht??

WTF?

Greg Everett
09-20-2012, 09:24 AM
Dropping empty bars is definitely not improving their longevity. Without bumpers to absorb some of the force, you're probably getting some pitting inside the sleeve from the bearings over time.

John Janecek
09-20-2012, 02:47 PM
I think I get more pitting in my stomache.....

Matthew Beals
12-19-2012, 09:03 AM
Is this the BFS bar you mentioned?
http://biggerfasterstronger.com/details.asp?pID=633&category=0&subcategory=0&size=0&search=olympic&page=

Any experience with CAP bars?
http://www.christiansfitnessfactory.com/index.php/Olympic-Bars/Cap-1200-lb-Olympic-Power-Bar

I know cheap is cheap and they won't compare to the good stuff, but just looking for something reasonable to start out on. The stuff at my gym is all 30mm power bars with no spin... but at least they allow Olifting, right?

Greg Everett
12-19-2012, 09:38 AM
Yes, that's the BFS bar.

We have a cap cambered bar which is fine for what it is, but I've never seen another bar from them.

Tamara Reynolds
12-20-2012, 04:36 AM
Any experience with CAP bars?
http://www.christiansfitnessfactory.com/index.php/Olympic-Bars/Cap-1200-lb-Olympic-Power-Bar

I know cheap is cheap and they won't compare to the good stuff, but just looking for something reasonable to start out on. The stuff at my gym is all 30mm power bars with no spin... but at least they allow Olifting, right?

I have two of the 1200 lb CAP bars. It does spin well enough for Olympic lifts, as well as the Wright HD that I have, in fact. HOWEVER, it has powerlifting knurl marks and not Olympic lifting knurl marks. Also, the knurl stops about an inch before the collars, so if you have someone with a snatch grip out to the collars, that may be an issue.

For the money, it is an excellent all purpose bar, although I don't have it at my gym for Olympic lifts, just for powerlifting. If you buy it, DO NOT buy it from CFF because you have to pay about $45 in shipping. Buy it from Walmart.com or Amazon and you can get FREE shipping (you have to pick it up at Walmart).

This says 1000 lb, but it's the same bar: http://www.amazon.com/Cap-Barbell-Pound-Solid-7-Feet/dp/B001K4OPY2/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1356006788&sr=8-7&keywords=CAP+1200+lb

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CAP-Barbell-Olympic-Solid-Black-Power-Bar-with-Silver-Zinc-Sleeves/19866874

I did a review of that bar and the Powerline squat stands (which are now up to $189 or so) here:

http://youtu.be/3GVbsgqa4Ek

Matthew Beals
12-20-2012, 07:59 AM
Outstanding, thank you Tamara. And nice wallpaper!