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Andrew Midmer
12-06-2010, 12:27 PM
anyone buying into the whole compression/recovery tights, is it all hype.

I am specifically looking at the stuff SKINs make, does anyone have some of their stuff. Would Under Armour or some cheap knockoff suffice.

Christmas is coming around and thinking of gifts.

Thanks./

Andrew Midmer
12-06-2010, 12:45 PM
The science from SKINS

http://www.skinsusa.com/index.php/en/science.html


Is this an extension of Rest Ice Compression Elevation?

Will this reduce DOMS in a signficant way?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11411623

Kraemer seems to think otherwise.

Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence when it comes to this.

Thanks

Steven Low
12-06-2010, 01:26 PM
DOMS does nothing to hinder or hurt workouts, so I don't see why it's a concern at all.

Compression stuff does have its usefulnesses perhaps. there may be slight improvements shunting blood back to the heart and may be useful when its really cold out.

Obviously, they're not going to be world beating stuff but if you want to eke out a bit more from your performance or want to try it feel free to go for it.

I mean, personally its probably best to focus on the big 3 (sleep, ttraining, diet) as thats where most of the results come from anywya. but i fyou ahve money to spare then go for it.

Joe Hart
12-06-2010, 02:13 PM
On 8weeksout there is this thread

http://www.8weeksout.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=831

One of the posters was discussing recovery with Bill Sands (OTC guy) and apparently compression was one the better recovery items.

So I checked into compression recovery and Bill Sands. There is some interesting stuff out there. They make compression garmets that are specifically for recovery at $200 a pop so that put me off right there. Its an intresting idea and I could see how it would work, but like Steve said, sleep and eat works the best.

Andrew Midmer
12-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Please explain below.

[QUOTE=Steven Low;83845]DOMS does nothing to hinder or hurt workouts, so I don't see why it's a concern at all.

I have read some stuff stating that DOMS will go away during the course of exercise.

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1984/12000/Mechanisms_of_exercise_induced_delayed_onset.2.asp x


I do believe compression to be of some help, but paying upwards of 400 bucks for a tight fitting piece of lycra is not my thing.

Jarod Barker
12-06-2010, 05:37 PM
The science from SKINS

http://www.skinsusa.com/index.php/en/science.html


Is this an extension of Rest Ice Compression Elevation?

Will this reduce DOMS in a signficant way?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11411623

Kraemer seems to think otherwise.

Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence when it comes to this.

Thanks

I tried it. I found no measurable difference. I even compared my blood oxygen using a pulse oximeter with and without the compression wear, no difference at all. Morning pulse rate was the same, soreness was the same, etc. I will say, they are comfortable, so if it's hot out, they're actually quite nice. But I wouldn't count on them for recovery. You'll get more from jumping into a garbage can full of ice water immediately after your workouts.

Steve Shafley
12-06-2010, 06:19 PM
An acquaintance who is an olympic lifting enthusiast acquired what was essentially a full body suit of the Skin compression gear.

Said it helped manage DOMS but overall didn't seem to improve his strength.

Andrew Midmer
12-07-2010, 06:07 AM
All in all, seem as if everyone has different opinions on it. Most people like the feeling it provides, especially those I asked at my gym. Whether it's a placebo is debatable?

Still undecided on it.

Garrett Smith
12-07-2010, 06:42 AM
I'll wear my UA compression tights to bed if I'm feeling particularly beat-down, sometimes I'll even sleep with a TK knee band on. I do feel it helps, however, as an everyday thing I find it way overkill.

Andrew Midmer
12-07-2010, 10:54 AM
Right on! I think under Armour maybe the most cost effective way to go, as opposed to Skins or the Segoy ones (spl?).

Probably has its uses, but not as good as the standbys of rest and diet.

Garrett Smith
12-07-2010, 11:06 AM
Also, I would trust www.sweatitout.com with my compression purchases in the future, personally. I have some of their hip/groin shorts from when I strained an adductor, and I really like them.

The UA ones I bought, I don't remember why I got them, I'd rather have the Sweat It Out ones.

Andrew Midmer
12-07-2010, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the link Garrett.

Chris Snyder
12-07-2010, 01:06 PM
I have both Zoot and Skinz compression tights. At this point, I can't really tell if they do anything or not. Over night, I wake up annoyed with them and rip them off. After a morning workout, I will wear them under my work cloths where I sit at a desk all day. I still don't know if they make one bit of difference. By the end of the day, I cannot wait to get home to take them off. I have found that jumping in a barrel of ice water up to my waist does way, way more than the tights ever did.

I have an older friend (54) that has them and absolutely loves them. He also has really high blood pressure and cholesterol and general health issues. I've come to think that the people that really benefit from them had circulation issues to begin with and possibly didn't know it. Most of the people that convinced me to get them were in their late 30s to 50s. After getting them and not being impressed, I talked to people my age (27), most didn't really feel a difference.

There is one area that I did feel a difference: driving or flying long distances. A 14 hour drive or 6 hour flight and my legs don't feel AS bad as if I go bare. The effect of sitting is still there, just not as noticeable.

With that being said, anyone interested in slightly used Size 2 Zoot tights for a deep discount?

Andrew Midmer
12-09-2010, 09:14 AM
Went with a pair of Sugoi tights. Will comment later on how I feel.

Spencer Mackay
12-13-2010, 04:39 AM
I think compression gear is primarily effective with athletes who are elite in their field. These athletes are trained to a point where tiny changes to variables such as training, nutrition or recovery are what can give them a performance edge, hence why it 'works'. I think there is also a subjective element to it, where what works for one person may not work for another.

On a side note, I feel the neoprene compression shorts are the way to go, they're a lot more heavy duty.