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Derek Weaver
02-04-2011, 02:34 PM
I, along with several friends, am going either do a Warrior Challenge in October, or a Tough Mudder in September.

If it's the Warrior Challenge, I'm not really concerned about it and may do it drunk seeing as it's only 3 miles or so.

The Tough Mudder though, is gnarly. 10-12 miles, various obstacles, and it's definitely the big boy course.

Not really sure how to prepare for it. Tough Mudder is in September, and I am rediscovering my endurance, but just being able to run far isn't going to be enough, I don't think.

Currently, I am following an unintentionally drawn out Get Fit Quickly approach I saw in Andrew W's sig when he still had it. Looking to lift 2-3x/week depending on recovery.

Only reason I'm posting this thread is because on the Tough Mudder website (http://www.toughmudder.com) they said in New Jersey only 78% of people finished.

Input appreciated.

Derek Simonds
02-05-2011, 04:15 AM
One of my good friends just broke his ankle doing a tough mudder...

Kelly White
02-05-2011, 07:10 AM
I like the part where they are slamming beer on the course. It would be whole lot cooler if that was mid way through and not the end.

Even better would be a section where you have to drink a six pack as the obstacle.

Derek Weaver
02-05-2011, 03:17 PM
Warrior Dash= Run the course with a buzz, at least.

Tough Mudder= I need to actually prepare for it.

I think I actually need to figure out a mixed approach to do it. If I can convince the friends of mine who are going to do one of these races to make it the Tough Mudder, I want to finish the race.

22% drop out rate is pretty harsh for a 10-12 mile course.

Just showing up and doing it isn't a great idea from what I can tell. Plus, I have nothing else to compete in, so figure I may use this as a way to plan my workouts.

Any ideas from anyone on getting through a race like the Tough Mudder?

Derek Weaver
02-05-2011, 05:42 PM
Thanks Cyril. I've got a pair of Inov8 f-lite 230s that I really like and use on a gravel track while I am improving on my base level of fitness. In another month or two I will work on some trail runs, perhaps angling to hit some hills.

East Bay area has some good hiking trails that fit the bill to that effect.

I wasn't planning on doing the workout they have on there. For a race like this, I figure outside of the running and other aerobic stuff, the extra should fill the gaps, covering the anaerobic and strength side.

I don't want to waste away trying to get ready for a 10-12 mile race of all things.

Let us know how your race in May goes. I'd be interested to see how you ran it, and what you do to prepare.

I'm kinda hopped over the possibility of this because I am actually hyper competitive with no current competitive outlet, and I have never done an actual race where people didn't finish.

Jay Guindon
02-07-2011, 05:42 PM
Derek, are you familiar with MovNat? Seems like that might be a good program for this. MovNat focuses on 12 essential skills
Walking
Running
Quadrupedal movement
jumping
climbing
balancing
swimming
lifting
carrying
throwing
catching
defending
At least eight of those skills will be in an event like this, at least from what I saw in their videos. Definitely climbing looks like it's pretty crucial. http://www.americanparkour.com/MethodeNaturelle.pdf
That is the Methode Naturelle partially translated to english with an excellent section on jumping and climbing.

Derek Weaver
02-07-2011, 06:06 PM
Hey Jay,
Thanks for replying as well as the link. Definitely cool and I'm checking it out.

I'm familiar with MovNat. Definitely fits with dealing with the obstacles. As does Parkour and Free Running, which makes your link even more useful.

I plan on focusing on a few of these things as I get into better shape and closer to the race.

I need to make sure I'm in good shape, and also capable and strong enough to deal with all of this. I figure being small would be both a blessing and a curse.

It's not like this is some epic endeavor, but I'm pretty psyched and want to prepare accordingly. I figure the better I am prepared, the more likely I'll have fun instead of just being happy it's over.

Jay Guindon
02-08-2011, 09:05 AM
No worries.
It definitely looks really cool and I'm going to sign up for the 2011/2012 Toronto event. Let me know how it goes for you.

Derek Weaver
02-08-2011, 06:54 PM
You're in or around Toronto? I just got back from Toronto. Loved the city, except for the cold.

I sure as hell hope that race takes place in July. To do it in the winter is a bit sadistic.

By the way, I'm thinking once I get into better shape, I'll incorporate a fartlek session and have that day take my by a park near my house where I can be the weird adult who is swinging around on the monkey bars and all that.

Joe Davidoski
02-11-2011, 12:13 PM
Derek,

I ran the Tough Mudder in NorCal last October and it wasn't nearly as strenuous as I thought except for the altitude.

The courses are typically built around a ski resort so it has epic climbs up black diamond runs but I never saw anyone actually running those- it became hiking. Lots of the obstacles are fun but not really challenging like going through a tube or over massive cable spools. The only ones that were really mentally challenging were the water obstacles. For NorCal the water obstacles were in the snow making pool so the temp sucked the breath out of you.

Hopefully Tough Mudder got better at this but there was a line at some obstacles so it didn't really feel like a real 10 miler.

In the end though, it is a fun race and the high drop out rate is mainly because lots of deconditioned people attempt it. I recommend it for a fun time.

Derek Weaver
02-11-2011, 02:33 PM
Joe,
Thanks for the info. I had found a couple other comments around the web saying something similar. I guess they hype it up and edit the footage well to make it look a lot tougher. 10 miles is still a trek, but it's a little different when it's spread over 2 hours instead of 1.

Are you going to the one at Squaw this year?

Joe Davidoski
02-11-2011, 08:21 PM
It's def what you make of it. I think Khalipa brought most of CF Santa Clara and there were plenty of group t-shirts.

I'm actually considering heading down to LA to do the SOCAL one in May but I'll see if I can get the time.

Garrett Smith
02-11-2011, 08:38 PM
CFE, of course!!! You should shoot for the 750# DL before ever attempting to start training for this with Tabata B2B squats.

Derek Weaver
02-11-2011, 09:40 PM
CFE, of course!!! You should shoot for the 750# DL before ever attempting to start training for this with Tabata B2B squats.

Clearly this a course of action that I need to consider taking. I just can't seem to get to the point where I am actually proud of sub par, barely mediocre physical capability.

I want to get over these shin splints I've been dealing with, and then set to work to use myself as proof of how stupid CFE is.

Russell Crosswy
02-17-2011, 09:01 AM
I attempted to start a thread here asking for some advice about training for Tough Mudder (http://www.cathletics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6035).

The more videos I see of participants from Tough Mudder the less I'm worrying about it too much. See the video here (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2Fcfol ey5446%3Ffeature%3Dpyv%26ad%3D5670311276%26kw%3Dto ugh%2Bmudder%23p%2Fu%2F0%2FM3ZWdlewN4c&h=58f2d) where there is a line for the obstacle.

I'm going to get a pair of Vibram Trek Sports to run in. I've been running in Vibrams for almost 2 years now, but I need to build some distance in them. A couple of miles are ok, I'm concerned hitting close to 12 miles in one day would leave me debilitated. I've been following a strength and conditioning program recently that focuses on the big lifts plus some assistance and then some prowler work. After that I hit some runs in my Vibrams to get some distance and mix in some sprinting in the middle of the run, basically a fartlek run.

There is a track nearby and I've thought about hitting that up for some 300m and 400m repeats to build up some endurance, but I'm not sure that will do more than what the prowler does for me.

Edit: Reason for the Vibrams is I've rolled my ankle several times on rough terrain in running shoes with a thick sole. The thin to no-sole of the Vibrams really helps me with ankle stability. Basically you reduce the length of the lever arm so when my ankle rolls with the rough terrain there is not as much force on the ankle joint as with a thick soled running shoe. Go from a severely rolled ankle to a slight roll that does not leave you injured and in agony. Also, the easy cleaning of the Vibrams makes them an ideal choice for after the race. I think several people just throw their shoes away after the race or are planning on doing that.