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Steve Liberati
04-04-2007, 03:12 PM
First full year on diet void of grains...first year without allergies (I use to get them bad too).

Coincidence? I think not:cool:

Funny how the advent of agriculture did more for the pockets of Big Pharma than for the greater good of mankind:eek:

Mike ODonnell
04-04-2007, 03:17 PM
did more for the pockets of Big Pharma than for the greater good of mankind

and then a mysterious black van with tinted windows came to Steve's door.....and he was never heard from again......

Robb Wolf
04-04-2007, 03:54 PM
The funny thing is it would be Brad H. at the wheel.

Steve Liberati
04-04-2007, 03:54 PM
lol you talking about Mr. T and the A-team?

and then a mysterious black van with tinted windows came to Steve's door.....and he was never heard from again......

Allen Yeh
04-05-2007, 02:47 AM
First full year on diet void of grains...first year without allergies (I use to get them bad too).

Coincidence? I think not:cool:

Funny how the advent of agriculture did more for the pockets of Big Pharma than for the greater good of mankind:eek:

Maybe that's the step I need to take then...but right now I just don't see how I can avoid all grains completely with my wife and 3 kids since I try to be somewhat "normal" and eat dinner with them.

Anyone successfully gone Paleo while their family eats differently?

Steve Shafley
04-05-2007, 04:57 AM
Fantastic.

Allen...I too struggle with that sort of thing.

Steve Liberati
04-05-2007, 05:00 AM
Allen,
I can somewhat relate to your situation as I was the black sheep or the food snob (as my family liked to say) when I was living at home a few yrs back. Coming from an Italian background pasta, bread and other starchy carb sources were typical fare on the dinner table most nights. At first, I can remember my mom shaking her head in disgust when I politely told her I was going to eat my own thing but after while they got used to it. "Is everything all right Steve?" or the best one, "Your going to get sick and frail eating all that protein shit." Over time, the comments subsided...and the curiosity took over with questions like, "your staying in great shape Steve, do you find those meals enough to fill you up and keep you going?" Same thing with my wife, but after living with me for years and seeing the results...she now eats the same stuff as me (although let's go on the weekends).

So stay the course Allen and know your setting a good example for your family. Eventually they'll learn from you, accept your food choices and hopefully be willing enough to just try it and see for themselves someday. Is it possible they think of your food as "grown-up food" and think they're not old enough for it yet?

Maybe that's the step I need to take then...but right now I just don't see how I can avoid all grains completely with my wife and 3 kids since I try to be somewhat "normal" and eat dinner with them.

Anyone successfully gone Paleo while their family eats differently?

Allen Yeh
04-05-2007, 05:37 AM
Steve L.,
For dinner we typically eat healthily but grains are still included such as corn, whole wheat noodles...etc. It's been an adjustment so far just getting the stepkids to eat this way without asking for something different for dinner than what everyone else is eating. Which is what they used to do before I married their mom. (i.e. "What's for dinner? Eww....chicken and vegetables? can't I just have a PB+J instead?")

I know it'd be 20 times easier if it was my wife, the baby and myself because my wife likes to eat healthily also and the baby eats what we provide. The stepkids are just used to eating they way they did before, and it's been an adjustment but I'd say that they eat better than most other kids out their in part because I just refuse to buy them a ton of crap. (They still indulge just not as much as they used to or want to.)

In part I try to eat the same thing as what my family is eating so I'm not being super hypocritical and making my own thing because I don't really like what's for dinner. Though when they have pizza or something like that I'll typically do my own thing, or instead of having macaroni with dinner I'll take extra vegetables.

Steve S.,

How has the family nutritional eating changed if at all?

Robert Allison
04-05-2007, 07:03 AM
Hey Allen,

If you have problems with allergies, you might give quercetin a try. I know quite a few allergy suffers who have good success with it.

I tell them that if they cut out (or at least cut back) on the grains, their allergies would probably resolve themselves. But, as you might image, that advice is about as well received as a brick to the head.

In my book, quercetin is preferable to something like Claritin.

Allen Yeh
04-05-2007, 07:21 AM
Hey Allen,

If you have problems with allergies, you might give quercetin a try. I know quite a few allergy suffers who have good success with it.

I tell them that if they cut out (or at least cut back) on the grains, their allergies would probably resolve themselves. But, as you might image, that advice is about as well received as a brick to the head.

In my book, quercetin is preferable to something like Claritin.

I looked it up on google, interesting stuff. What do you typically recommend in terms of dosage? Brands?

Robert Allison
04-05-2007, 07:41 AM
Most of the peeps I know take it 2-3 times / days during allergy season. Regarding brands, the only one I am really familar with is Jarrow:

http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=263
(http://www.jarrow.com/product.php?prodid=263)
They are probably other quality products available, but that is the only one I have any knowledge of.

Derek Simonds
04-05-2007, 08:23 AM
Great thread. My wife is genetically gifted. Currently she could eat anything she wanted maintain a great figure and fairly consistent weight.

Growing up her family ate terrible. My family has always been big on meat, fish and vegetables so cleaning up my diet was fairly easy for me.

We have two children and both are very active along with my wife and I. I do exactly what Allen does. My wife coordinates our meals so that when I am home we eat something that matches my diet. The only difference is that she might add some bread, or noodles for her and the kids. I will confess that there are times when she makes garlic bread that I have to use every ounce of will power not to eat three pieces.

The other thing that I am doing is on Sunday night I am cooking up a large amount of meat on the grill for the following week.

There are two things that I am fighting right now. First my son is very sensitive to processed carbs and sugar. If he eats them he gets on a roller coaster where he is wired then crashes and his behavior suffers. Based on personal experience and the literature I have read I understand why this happens. The tough part is that everybody in the world including schools give kids candy and crap. I hate being a grinch about Jr not eating cake, cupcakes and candy which like I said before is prevalent all over, but I know he is much better off not eating them. The kids have their easter baskets in our pantry and when they get candy from somewhere my wife puts it in their basket. The baskets are always full. Once again I am lucky as the kids will usually only ask once a day can I have something out of my basket.

Second item is breakfast. With me heading one direction, the wife another, getting the kids ready, dog walked and all the things that have to happen in the morning it is hard to consistently get them something other than cereal. I know we should just get up an extra 15 minutes earlier. When I am home that is what normally happens, but it is still tough.

Anyone have any ideas for breakfast?

I am truly lucky that my kids love meat and vegetables. I had steak, shrimp, lobster and salad 3 meals in one week because that is my kids favorite meals and they got to pick them for birthday dinners.

Robb Wolf
04-05-2007, 10:22 AM
Hey Allen,

If you have problems with allergies, you might give quercetin a try. I know quite a few allergy suffers who have good success with it.

I tell them that if they cut out (or at least cut back) on the grains, their allergies would probably resolve themselves. But, as you might image, that advice is about as well received as a brick to the head.

In my book, quercetin is preferable to something like Claritin.

good Call Robert. The Jarrow quercetin rocks.