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Damien Thompson 12-08-2006 02:12 AM

Honey
 
Is it paleo or not?


I use to down a bunch of dextrose with a protein shake after training so now that i changed my diet to a more paleo way of eating what would be a good replacement for the post-exercise carbs for recovery.

I've read some stuff and some people are against and some are for ingesting carbs/protein after training. I personally think that the recovery benefits from ingesting carbs and protein after training are worth whatever negative benefits they have on hormone status, ... so back to the main question....

Is honey a good alternative, or is there a better solution??

Chris Forbis 12-08-2006 04:13 AM

I don't know much about what you are asking, but if you do go the honey route, I'd go with raw, unpasteurized honey such as they have here: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Categor...honey+products

Steve Shafley 12-08-2006 05:31 AM

I'd second Chris.

I'd also consider whole food instead.

Scott Kustes 12-08-2006 05:35 AM

To answer the question, yes honey is Paleo. That said, it is still not something to consume any major quantity of given it's high sugar content. Paleo doesn't necessarily make it good for you.

I prefer the whole food route following a workout too. Just finished my PWO meal of 1/2lb goat liver with onions and sauerkraut and a sweet potato with 1 tbsp coconut oil and some cinnamon. Polishing off the macadamias now. The people at work think I'm odd. One lady said "You're eating that for breakfast!??!"

kevin mckay 12-08-2006 10:00 AM

Typical honey analysis

* Fructose: 38%
* Glucose: 31%
* Sucrose: 1%
* Water: 17%
* Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose)
* Ash: 0.17%

Robb Wolf 12-09-2006 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin mckay (Post 1655)
Typical honey analysis

* Fructose: 38%
* Glucose: 31%
* Sucrose: 1%
* Water: 17%
* Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose)
* Ash: 0.17%

Nice info Kevin. Way too much fructose to make honey a good PWO carb source. Essentially the same break down as table sugar.

Damien Thompson 12-11-2006 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb Wolf (Post 1707)
Nice info Kevin. Way too much fructose to make honey a good PWO carb source. Essentially the same break down as table sugar.

What would you recommend Rob?

Thanks for the answers guys

Mike ODonnell 12-11-2006 05:01 AM

I found this interesting

http://www.scienceblog.com/community...200005563.html
"A research study presented today at the annual National Strength and Conditioning Association meeting suggests that combining honey with a protein supplement may boost post-workout recuperation and favor better blood sugar maintenance after exercise. "We were pleased to find that powdered honey promoted favorable changes in post-exercise markers of metabolism equal to that of the current standard, maltodextrin," says Dr. Richard Kreider, lead investigator of the study and Director of the Exercise and Sport Nutrition Laboratory at the University of Memphis. "We also found that the group receiving honey as the carbohydrate source did not display the typical drop in blood sugar 60 minutes after taking the other forms of carbohydrates. These findings support our previous study on honey.""

Oh wait ....."Funded by the National Honey Board"....nevermind. lol

Daniel I believe the industry standard is a mix of dextrose/maltodextrin for PWO recovery. All depends on how insulin resistant you are as well. I believe it is Poliquin who uses like 30g+ L-Glutamine instead of high gi carbs indicating it gives a good insulin response while keeping the athletes lean.

Robb Wolf 12-11-2006 12:07 PM

Nice stuff Mike!

I like Yams/sweet potatoes for PWO carbs. Not very sciency but iv'e prefered those effects to any type of drink.

Brad Hirakawa 12-11-2006 02:56 PM

I'll second the yams/sweet taters. Easty to make, nice to eat and they make your poop turn a nice shade of orange.

Brad


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