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Steve Kaspar 01-05-2009 06:18 PM

are these breakfasts good for you?
 
maybe i'm wrong, but looking at all these posts on what everybody is eating for breakfast, seems totally different from what i have ben hearing and eating for years. looks like there are a lot of people eating sausages, beacon, cheeses, creams, which i heard the past number of years is not good. maybe a bit, in moderation, but it looks like these folks eat a lot. i would like to hear from some top of the line nutritionist how this kind of high fat, high saturated fat is good for you.
just in comparison, i look at lance armstrongs diet. his coach and nutritionist have to be some of the better ones out there. no fly by night dr. or coach. he eats his pasta, fish, fruits veggies, salads olive oil, chicken, steak, rice..
i thing he is better informed than we are. he races his bike for a living. most of us wanna gain a few pounds and squat 300 instead of 250...
so where is the info that says eating all this high calorie, high saturated fat is good? i would like to follow up on the reading. i havent had beacon in years. cream or sausage either.... cheese on everything... not me. but if its ok, per a top nutritionist, not just some dude wanting to gain 10 pounds, i'll have a few slices of the fatty beacon myself.
i may have been missing out these last 50+ years.
please, if anyone can provide some good info on the way everyone is eating, and say its not harmfull, let me know...
thanks alot
steve

George Mounce 01-05-2009 07:37 PM

I eat eggs, meat, bacon oh ya.

My cholesterol is well within the low levels. My blood work astounds doctors.

Probably because they are used to seeing people who eat....doughnuts, muffins, grain-based CRAP.

Ancient man didn't have these things, he killed some animal, ate some berries and fruits off the ground, picked a few things he could see and did well. Wasn't until agriculture that the average life span went from 65 to 35. Modern medicine has kept the idiots alive longer than new fangled diets, and tastebud special foods every have.

Lance Armstrong also during races burned 10,000 calories a day on mountain days. You are comparing his need for fuel to...whose? Specialized athletes can eat quite a bit, look at the debate over Phelps' diet. They eat that way because they can burn the fuel. Normal people eating that way would get fat, and they do.

I really, really suggest you read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes.

Edit: One thing to note, the arguably most powerful woman in the world, Oprah, recently just complained about being back up to 200 pounds. She has enough money to buy an army of nutritionists, and yet she's fat, rich yes, but still fat. Goes to show you people with the money to buy smart people, no matter how much they have or how well they do, will not be healthy if they do not put forth the effort to do so.

Mike ODonnell 01-05-2009 08:05 PM

Steve, this site has great info on sat fats and heart diseases/cholesterol.

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

Steve Kaspar 01-06-2009 06:32 PM

good oils?
 
very confusing. i know olive oil is good for you, but what other oils are good? its confusing reading about all the oils. i thought canola and safflower were good. not it sounds like they are ok at best..
what are good cooking oils? i put the olive oil over pasta and other dishes, but what about oils to cook in?which ones re the best?
thanks
steve

Kisholi Mendis 01-06-2009 10:29 PM

Steve, I think most people on these forums favour butter and coconut oil for cooking, as do I. Ghee or lard are other options if you have them.

Allen Yeh 01-07-2009 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kaspar (Post 47147)
very confusing. i know olive oil is good for you, but what other oils are good? its confusing reading about all the oils. i thought canola and safflower were good. not it sounds like they are ok at best..
what are good cooking oils? i put the olive oil over pasta and other dishes, but what about oils to cook in?which ones re the best?
thanks
steve

This thread has 2 links to some sites, check it out:
http://www.cathletics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3575

Nick Hanson 01-21-2009 04:37 PM

I vote that you cook in lard. Its got an ability to perform well in high heat and doesn't add any flavor to your food. Plus it looks awesome.

Aimee Anaya Everett 01-21-2009 05:32 PM

I am with George. Bacon, eggs, and more bacon is the breakfast of champs!
With a little fruit and nuts or avo, and you are starting a great day.

Olive oil is fabulous... but you could use the left over bacon grease too :)

Arien Malec 01-21-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aimee Anaya (Post 48312)
Bacon, eggs, and more bacon is the breakfast of champs!
...
Olive oil is fabulous... but you could use the left over bacon grease too :)

I just "poach" my eggs in the bacon grease, so I never have leftover problems.

Derek Simonds 01-22-2009 03:49 AM

I had 3 eggs cooked in butter, 2 slices of ham and half an avocado for breakfast yesterday. It was heaven.

It's funny how you kind of stated (and I am paraphrasing) this type of diet is ok when you want to add 10 lb's but probably not healthy in the long run. I am in a mass gain phase right now and am eating closer to what Lance eats on a daily basis than what I normally consume. And truthfully I feel like crap consuming more grains, pasta and the like. I have started phasing them back out and I already feel better.

I was however able to put on about 15 lb's in 3 months. Now back to my healthy eating of protein, fat and vegetables.

If you haven't read The Paleo Diet or Lights Out Sleep Sugar and Survival they would be great places to start to understand what a lot of us are doing. Good Calories Bad Calories is a great read also.


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