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Old 07-20-2007, 11:07 AM   #11
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Totally forgot - BW is now 210-211 lbs (started at 225-227)
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:27 AM   #12
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One side effect that I met last time during V-diet came back.

Blacking out and getting dizzy - as PM 17 Strength mesocycle prescribes did
1 RM test on Sn, C&J and FS. At 85 kg c&j while driving up out of a front squat - my vision started to get blurry (it was a slow squat for whatever reason). Jerked it real quick.

Got 90 and 95 kilos not super fast but decently with only minor blur and missed 97.5 due to lack of agressiveness.

BW is 209 lbs (95 kg even).

Cheat meal coming up in an hour.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:07 PM   #13
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Blacking out and getting dizzy
I'm no Dr but pretty sure that is NOT a good thing....nevermind if it happens while lifting which can be...Ummmm....possibly borderline fatal?? Might want to check with a Dr about what is going on....as I really would NOT suggest anyone follow any diet or eating plan that caused those types of reactions...there are a 100 other safer ways to lose fat.....
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:33 PM   #14
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Leo I remember your last stint with the V diet a while back on the MH forums... amazing results but damn it seems like quite a price to pay. I know the masochist stuff is right up your ally, but damn dude.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:13 AM   #15
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Mike - agreed.

This experiment was unforgiving. Last time I did velocity the side effects were coming mildly and I was able to adjust accordingly and scale lifestyle and training. This time - boom - first lots of energy and everything is great, 24 hour fast and once I had my first and then second shake (at 3pm and 5 pm)on Sunday - my stomach disagreed severely.

I decided to stop the diet (my health is more important) and proceed with Paleo eating 24/24.

Sounded crazy enough and was worth a shot, but my body disagreed. Listen to the body someone said and that's the plan.

Thanks for the responses guys.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:38 AM   #16
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Remember that nothing is written in stone on these programs as you can make up your own versions.....such as 24hr V-diet (liquid), 24 hr eating foods......Drink liquid diet during the day, meal at night.....etc...etc....so many more safer modifications I am sure that will still get you great results....
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:42 PM   #17
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It's one thing to eat very little and train lightly but it's another thing to eat protein-only and train hard.
I had blurry eye vision too last year when I'd do HIIT after weight training. This would only happen when carbs are lowish. Usually I'd have been eating few carbs the day before lifting (I train EOD) and not even have had many carbs before lifting, so the training session would make me go into deep ketosis.

Velocity diet is near 100% protein. Ever heard of rabbit starvation? Your body needs both protein & fat. Somehow people forget about the fat part.
I bet you feel much better eating Paleo-style!
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:14 AM   #18
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hey leo, how's Paleo + IF going for you? i attempted the V diet 2 weeks back and decided the quick fatloss was not worth it either.
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Old 08-06-2007, 02:06 PM   #19
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It's actually going really well.

I think the issue with the V-diet was not due to the diet itself rather due to the caffeine pills I was taking for energy. Couple days after I stopped doing the diet - I had exactly the same symptoms just a tad milder half an hour after the caffeine pills (I don't like coffee, but been using regular caffeine 200 mg pills on and off for over a year now).

Cut the caffeine out completely - side effects were gone.

Yvana - I actually had quite a bit of fat in my diet (I was using Muscle milk instead of the Metabolic drive - tastes better, has a bit higher carb content and I know a couple people who had great success with it on velocity. My experiment was going allright too fatloss wise).

So once it was over I decided to amp my training, use ladders and metcon workouts Mon-Wed-Fri and Tue-Thurs - breathing ladder.
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