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12-08-2006, 10:16 AM
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Two physicians ago it was recommended I take either a baby aspirin ED or a regular aspririn EOD.
My last physician was upset he couldn't get me on Lipitor and a diuretic.
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12-08-2006, 08:06 PM
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I guess there's different prostaglandins for different forms of inflammation, like for example oxidized oils promote inflammation (even though they have EFA's), cold pressed ones are better but some are stabilized with hexane (yeck).
I read something written by a homeopath saying that D3 can be higher than what MD's say (which is 1000 unites maximum, based on a 1932 study with mice), too much D3 causes diarrhea so that's one way to tell what your dose is (1000 unites less than max)
Here's some sites with opposing viewpoints I was sent that I haven't had a chance to look at yet:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...112/2/e132.pdf
http://www.prn2.usm.my/mainsite/bull...996/sun43.html
http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/11/07/06.html
This because I was looking into safety of upping my dose of CLO.
Apparently fish oil is a better choice for EPA and DHA than CLO.
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12-08-2006, 11:51 PM
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One more thing (yes, I am up late with the lights on) is I'm pretty sure aspirin is a cox inhibitor which includes inhibiting cox 2 and 3 (which are inflammatory, but in a way that some argue is necessary for healing) and also inhibits cox 1, necessary for membrane repair and optimal immune function. I have lecture notes on this somewhere but that's just from memory. Not sure how small a dosage would be more beneficial than harmful, but I'm sure some of the whizzes on this board would. (That's your cue.)
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12-09-2006, 06:48 AM
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The NSAIDS like Celebrex are Cox II inhibitors
Asprin however works broader as a Cox I and II inhibitor.
Cox II enzyme is more responsible for the "pain" of inflammation
Cox I enzyme has some beneficial properties such as maintaining the stomach lining (hence why people who take too many asprin have stomach related issues, ulcers, etc)
When the suggestion in the medical community came about for taking an asprin a day, I dont know. Probably fueled by some weak research sponsored by Tylenol to up sales. Doctors think it lessens the chance for heart disease by it's blood thining properties. Omega 3 fish oil does the same while actually fixing the cause of inflammation, not masking it's symptoms.
Either way I don't ever take asprin, if I have inflammation I need to know so I can take corrective actions to repair whatever is going wrong in my body. It's like cutting the wires to the check engine light in your car.....ignoring the first warning sign....sooner or later that can lead to more extensive damage.
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12-09-2006, 07:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yael Grauer
I guess I'm also just asking what to do for a one-month period to decrease inflammation as opposed to what is the healthiest general long-term diet (which would of course include tons of red meat, lol.)
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Get some sleep!
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12-11-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Robb Wolf
Get some sleep!
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All this science and we're relegated to grandma medicine.
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12-11-2006, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell
The NSAIDS like Celebrex are Cox II inhibitors
Asprin however works broader as a Cox I and II inhibitor.
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I just took a bunch of ibuprofen. So much for my principles
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12-11-2006, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yael Grauer
All this science and we're relegated to grandma medicine.
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Wasn't it our Grandmothers who told us to take Cod Liver Oil??
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12-11-2006, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell
Wasn't it our Grandmothers who told us to take Cod Liver Oil??
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And to eat more meat, in my Jewish family anyway. Grandma freaked out when I was vegetarian.
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12-12-2006, 07:40 AM
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Sounds like grandma was a smart lady. And she didn't even have to read Lights Out and The Paleo Diet to relearn everything the human race seems to have forgotten.
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