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Old 09-02-2007, 08:29 AM   #11
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I find it interesting that the same type of programming is recommended for the bench and for the overhead press. While I haven't had any huge shoulder problems or surgries for my shoulders I did find that a lot of overhead press training (2-3x per week) really put a hurting on my shoulders while I've done the same for bench and not had the same problems. Though on the same token I was also benching heavy and overhead pressing so perhaps that was the problem at the time. I've never just done overhead pressing and not some type of horizontal pressing motion also.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #12
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I would also have to guess that progressing toward the
freestanding handstand pushup (as complimentary to the
press) would take the pressure off the low back, teach
whole body tension and work the stabilizers. Comments?
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:51 PM   #13
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I would also have to guess that progressing toward the
freestanding handstand pushup (as complimentary to the
press) would take the pressure off the low back, teach
whole body tension and work the stabilizers. Comments?
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When I was doing capoeira 5X/week and training a mountain of handstand variations I had a 180lb standing press at 165. I'm not where near that level now. I find the HS work to be very productive for the press.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:09 AM   #14
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Note sure about the date of this interview with Rip

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/crossfit_total.htm
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:37 AM   #15
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Has anyone messed with the combined CF/PL template Jason Bagwell put forward a couple years ago? Tweaking this to the press seems like a nice way to go.

Josh, do you remember this template?
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When I was doing capoeira 5X/week and training a mountain of handstand variations I had a 180lb standing press at 165. I'm not where near that level now. I find the HS work to be very productive for the press.
Bearing this in mind, I believe I remember seeing a picture of you in a free
handstand on parallel bars. I can get 10 good HSPU, or 3 sets of 5 doing the CF warmup with just a lite dab of my foot on the wall, but when I try to get a single with parallettes, my 205 lbs might as well be 2050, so I can see that I have a ways go in progression. It will be interesting to see how working the HSPU moves my 168-lb press into a more respectable % of bodyweight.

What variations are there? All I can think of is to press out of headstand,
or a 'frogstand', and negatives on the parallettes.
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:57 AM   #17
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Bent-arm/Leg press, bent arm straight-leg press, straight arm/straight-leg press, planche press, one-arm handstand, handwalking, cartwheel to handstand, hopping handstands....

That's just off the top of my head, and I've never taken capoeira, but they have a whole set of movements based off of defense and offense in the handstand!
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Thx for the quick reply, Jesse.

Don't quite follow the leg presses, got a link?
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Oh yeah, Beastskills tutorials, enough there
to last me until retire/expirement.

http://www.beastskills.com/tutorials.htm
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Negatives on the paralettes were very productive for me. GTG style if possible, if not something like 10x1-2 two to three times in a week. Every 3rd WO cut the volume in half...Louie Simmons had a nice article on I think bench assistance exercises and talks about his guys working up to HSPU's on rings...like sets of 15. That is freaking strong.

The various bent arm/leg options are more for free standing press to handstands.
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