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Old 12-22-2007, 11:34 AM   #21
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Hey, I'm done on this one. Said my piece.

Garrett, you're like me. People end up in your practice because the medical field has failed them, and you get them well. I see it hundreds of times a week. So excuse me for not taking sh*t from a second year med student.

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Old 01-04-2008, 07:42 AM   #22
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Jared,

I suppose I just don't see the downside of vaccinating your kids? Is their one?

It seems like a lot of you think doctors and the field of medicine have put us in our current state of health and living (increasing incidence of CAD, high BP, diabetes, cancer, etc...), I think we have no one to blame but ourselves. I find it hilarious that you view doctors as the enemy. It makes no logical sense. To each his own.
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:58 AM   #23
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True, you can blame that no one takes the personal responsibility to learn everything about their own health and make their own choices on what they do with their life. I don't blame doctors per say, but people's blind faith in them being the answer and will do anything without questioning what is going on. Much like any profession, I am sure there are great doctors and ones paid off by pharma reps. Doctors are not the enemy, people's blind faith in them is. Question everything, the only truth is the one you decide on...not what is told, as that is just someone else's opinion from some point and time.

I could blame more people's blind faith in the FDA and food pyramid and any processed food that some company calls "healthy"...as that has lead us down a road of skyrocketing disease and obesity.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:10 AM   #24
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As far as vaccines and science go, they're not on the same page at all.
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There has never, ever, to anyone's knowledge, been a long-term study done comparing disease rates of vaccinated children versus unvaccinated children.
Can I just say... polio?
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:08 AM   #25
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Vaccine-Autism Panic Debunked Yet Again by New Study
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For years, the scientific evidence has been accumulating. The latest, published this week, once again showed that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative long used in childhood vaccines, does not cause the neurological disorders associated with the U.S. autism epidemic.

In fact, scientists at the California Department of Public Health demonstrated that in the years since nearly all thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001, the rate of autism has continued to rise there. Had thimerosal been the culprit, those numbers should have decreased.
More... http://reason.com/blog/show/124346.html
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:13 PM   #26
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Just a thought...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
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Underdiagnosis and overdiagnosis are problems in marginal cases, and much of the recent increase in the number of reported ASD cases is likely due to changes in diagnostic practices.
Another thought is that perhaps the diagnoses that are currently happening are pre-2001 vaccinations...not sure how long it takes for the illness to actually be diagnosed.

Don't know one way or the other...just throwing out some possibilities.
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Old 01-16-2008, 11:19 AM   #27
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http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_effective.html

More evidence arguing in favor of the effectiveness of vaccination.
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