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Old 04-26-2008, 05:10 PM   #11
Stanley Daniel
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Hey I had a post not too long ago (today ) asking about this component - I've weighed my food in the past when I was doing mostly protein-carb / protein-fat meals ~6 times a day... I wrote a huge post asking some questions in the crossfit board this past week... anyways, I usually measure everything in grams/ounces...
Not counting calories, but ~1.3grams protein/lb lean mass/ 1g carb/LBM / ~0.5g fat/LBM

especially now since I've recently started the zone, I'm trying to get a better understanding of this...


Y'all are counting the macros of each food? I don't count calories, but rather the main core macro of a food - i.e. if it's a

meat/egg=protein
veggie/fruit=carb
oils/nuts=fat

for example :

oatmeal (40grams) 3g F / 23g C (subtracted 4grams fiber) 5g P
this is a carb source, now you would factor in the 5grams of protein???
lets say you're eating

avocado (100gram) 15g F / 2grams carb (subtracted 7grams fiber) 2g P

got my point/question? weighing and measuring already takes time as you know... that's the next level, if I am following what y'all were talking about!
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:26 AM   #12
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Stanley,
Personally, when I did the Zone (note past tense), I counted all the macros of each food. Or to be more exact, I turned each food's macros into their block equivalents (rounding usually to the 1/2 block).

If I'm going to be OCD, I go all out.

I don't do that anymore.
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:22 PM   #13
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Thank you again Garrett for your views on this post and along with the other one... I've been absorbing some interesting nuggets of info from posts written by yourself and others!

I came across some "nightshade" topics too Hehe, all these years) I've been eating those spices (varieties of peppers, lots of paprika and I thought eggplants & tomatoes (both of which I started eating lots of last week) were "zone" friendly...

Anyways, I'll drop out these nightshade foods that I read from : http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62 and see how things go for the next few weeks... will need to find something to substitute for the "kick" needed for some meals....

You've mentioned that the zone was the past, and now?
I've seen some interesting posts on the paleo-style... most of which, the foods I already have in my home... so I was using mostly paleo-type foods, but calculating my portions via fitday and zone blocks... Is there a better way to calculate the daily paleo requirements besides the Katch-McArdle/Harris-Benedict/Dr.Sears calculator methods?

At the present moment, I've been using the sears and crossfit journal #21 "medium male 16block" amount... both the sears and journal upon measuring with tape was about right.... I've had the acu-measure fat calipers in the past but I misplaced them but used the KATCH-lbm method to figure my macro totals...
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:36 PM   #14
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I bought the Myotape and the accompanying calipers from bodybuilding.com . I used the Sears method, I think I came out at 18 blocks.

Now I'm low-carb Paleo and IF, at least I strive to be, it's dang hard with a pregnant wife and all her carby foods around the house! I know by my body comp and how I feel when I've been straying. I maintain my current weight really well (I'd guess around 10% BF) and I have no desire to gain LBM unless it happens as a result of training.

I never used Fitday. I used pencil and paper. Sometimes not even that much. I tended to eat a lot of the same foods over and over, having a couple of variations for lunches and dinners (breakfast was always a hemp protein shake).

I always calculated blocks from the label on the food, unless it was a food without a label, then I used the CFJ numbers or the USDA numbers (depended on what I had available at the time). I always had one cheat meal a week.
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