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Old 03-04-2008, 10:48 AM   #11
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I think you are seeing the backlash from all that on Eades' blog as he posted about it and left it open for comments.

Allen - can you do me a favor and post that personal story on IF over at http://projectfit.org/iflifeblog/if-success-stories/ . That's great feedback that people should know about!
? what i just posted here?
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:53 AM   #12
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? what i just posted here?
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:30 PM   #13
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I think Loren Cordain has a pretty good grasp on this: Paleo foods, punctuated eating times.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:35 PM   #14
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Robb what is implied by "punctuated eating times"?
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:32 AM   #15
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Eades reposted his "IF not all its cracked up to be post" on his own site..

I gave it another quick look over and towards the end this part strikes me as relevant for our purposes, seeing as it seems to be the crux of his newfound counterargument to IF:

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IF fasting, by significantly decreasing thermogenesis, decreases kcal out because our thermogenesis is what burns a whole lot of our calories. If the kcal in are decreased by the IF and the kcal out are decreased by the diminished thermogenesis brought about by the IF, itís no wonder the IF doesnít result in a lot of weight loss for most people.
I would never outright dismiss Eades' opinion but I think on this one he's missing the boat.. his clients/customers are looking for weight loss so in that sense YES IF is a bad idea, it slows metabolism. But for athletes or people otherwise not trying to lose weight (ie. many of us want to eat less but preserve LBM) the very effect Eades is criticizing IF for is what we'd be looking for..

It seems to me that MOD's recent blog post on metabolism is much more representative of why IF works for those who are ready for it.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:01 AM   #16
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Human = Animal.

Just like all other animals we are built to be sleeping running fighting f****** or eating. And the lattermost activity is after differently durationed periods of some mix of the former activities. I still haven't figured how we devolved, yes devolved, into cubicle desk-dwellings...

Delusions of grandeur of this reasoning thing in humans is what derails most people. Periods with zero caloric intake are absolutely 100% natural. Even hippo's go long periods without eating, and there's one big perpetually fat nasty thing I would never want to tangle with and for which I have tons, haha, of respect.

My "modified" IF, since learning more and more around these boards, is a now perpetual background meditation process of listening to what my body reports that it needs combined with what I know it needs. Sometimes I have three eggs in the morning sometimes I do not, sometimes I nibble on a few nuts during the day sometimes I do not(I really really want to be precisely as strong as a squirrel some day, those little bastages are quite impressive), always maintain water intake and eat whenever I get around to eating in the evening. Natural "Hunting and Gathering"... I've never been stronger, and body composition of late is changing rapidly since pushing into the even less food levels area from the time period between bedtime to the next days kill er I mean dinner. I see nothing but continually increasing productivity as I refine food sources and body-listening more and more.
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[quote=Paul McKirdy;32250process of listening to what my body reports that it needs combined with what I know it needs.

I see nothing but continually increasing productivity as I refine food sources and body-listening more and more.[/QUOTE]

Well said. Wish more people would take time out to just listen to their body (once they can get rid of all the false signals and cravings from sugar that is).....and fasting I have found just resets our natural cravings....as the body knows what it needs to survive.....and as you said, our human "ego" of needing to be right and know everything, for it to think it knows what the body needs just screws up everything....

Once a person can just listen to their body and know what foods get what results for them....anything is possible.
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