Fat: sources and balance

[Mike ODonnell]

Originally Posted by Brian Shanks

I am wondering if I should be feeling stupid right now.
I read the article MOD posted and I am wondering if my understanding of it is right.

I also started reading another of Peat's articles and it really makes me wonder about the fish oil I consume.

I even have my 4 year old taking fish oil. I read a lot of the studies on the benefits of fish oil and of all the studies I read, the only negative affect I read about was the possibility of thinning the blood.

So I guess my question is, is it mainly the Omega 3s in fish oil that are bad, or are the ones get naturally through grass fed beef, eggs, ect the same?
Are all Omega 3s created equally?

Or is this just one man's opinion?

Thanks

Bry

Keep the doses low and you should be fine. The body has the ability to combat free radicals...and needs some PUFAs especially for developing children. If in theory one had little Omega 6 pro-inflammatory AA intake from no grain fed animals/eggs and only ate grass fed beef/eggs....it's quite possible you would not need fish oil at all. It's more for the 3/6 ratio balance....and once the balance is there from less intake of 6s, then you should be able to lower the 3s....unlike someone still eating grain fed animals and having high intake of 6s...then they still need higher doses of 3s to balance out.

The body/brain really does not need that much EPA/DHA to see great increases....it's when inflammation issues are the main culprit that higher doses may need to be used.

Of course that's just this one man's opinion....but I have seen too many improvements in people with fish oil to discount it....although most of them were coming from a state of ill health to begin with.

[Liam Dougherty Springer]

Originally Posted by Brian Shanks

I am wondering if I should be feeling stupid right now.
I read the article MOD posted and I am wondering if my understanding of it is right.

I also started reading another of Peat's articles and it really makes me wonder about the fish oil I consume.

I even have my 4 year old taking fish oil. I read a lot of the studies on the benefits of fish oil and of all the studies I read, the only negative affect I read about was the possibility of thinning the blood.

So I guess my question is, is it mainly the Omega 3s in fish oil that are bad, or are the ones get naturally through grass fed beef, eggs, ect the same?
Are all Omega 3s created equally?

Or is this just one man's opinion?

Thanks

Bry

The omegas in Fish oil (DHA and ELA) are much more availiable for use and therefore you will need much less. The articles are talking about the difference between high and low Poly unsaturated fat diets. Like Mike said fish oil supplementation has had loads of accounts of verry bennifficial results.

That being said I have taken Mikes advice and just used fish oil to balance my Omega 6 intake from nuts or grain fed animal fats. The results have been equal or better than when I was taking mass quantities at each meal (definitly cheaper). Also I think it is a good idea to look into medical grade sources Dr. G will have some good ideas but there is at least one brand availiable at Whole Foods.

As far as the kid goes all I know is their bodies are typicaly in excelent shape given a non junk food diet and an active play schedual. You wont see to much obiesity untill they start sitting in desks all day. And their tollerence for nutritional supplementation is much below ours. I am sure that takeing care to present her with a variety of the highest quality (all natural and Paleo) whole food options in her regular diet, then letting her choose to eat what she wants is the best way to insure her proper nutrient intake and balance.

I am no Doc but sure do love the kidos!

[Liam Dougherty Springer]

I think your going to love this Bry http://nutrition.about.com/od/nutrit...supplemnts.htm

[Brian Shanks]

Thanks for the advice Mike.

I also read his article on Fish Oil which really got me thinking.

Liam

I do my best on the kids nutrition, unfortunately I don't have complete control so I do give a multi-vitamin and fish oil. My wife still thinks cereal is nutritional. We have only been eating healthy for the last 2-3 years so I have a lot more years of deprogramming to catch up. Then through in the healthy school lunches and a person can't help but supplement at least a little.

We are also 90 percent sure that the wife is pregnant. So some of the things about pregnancy and the link of Omega 3s and developing food allergies was a little scary.

Just hope this child is a boy, not sure all the nutrition in the world will help me if I have my fourth girl.

Cheers

Bry

[Liam Dougherty Springer]

Originally Posted by Liam Dougherty Springer

I think your going to love this Bry http://nutrition.about.com/od/nutrit...supplemnts.htm

I read the link I posted and realized the source might suck. I guess I just saw that it was saying kids vitamins and amega 3 are good for kids as suplements. That seemed to go right along with what we were talking about and it makes since to me. There were adds for taco bell and some bread company and realized I was questioning the credibility of their opinion.

Still I would feed my kids both of those things.