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07-29-2008, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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BJJ and Strength Training
If this topic has been covered somewhere else, I apologize for double-tapping it. But here is my question:
In an effort to up my strength-to-bodyweight ratio I have been incorporating some Starting Strength-type squat work (the full program later). On my current schedule, the heavy strength training and BJJ are on back-to-back days. I want to strength train and continue to roll, but I am considering doing them on the same day so I can take a true recovery day in between. I hope that makes sense. Here is my question in a nutshell...is rolling on my recovery day from lifting counterproductive to gaining mass and strength?
I think I already know the answer, but am looking for objective analysis. Thanks.
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07-29-2008, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,091
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Depends how much BJJ you're doing.
In general, SS is a great standalone program. If you try to add stuff to it your strength gains will likely decrease. If you use a modified program like Gant's hybrid or MEBB you might see better results.
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07-29-2008, 06:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 4,232
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Here is my schedule. It is very flexible because I travel a lot for living. I basically work one major lift a day and assistance lifts plus met-con. I am 38 and I have played with a lot of different scenarios over the last year and this one seems to fit me well so far.
Monday AM Weights and Met-Con
Monday PM 2:30 Hours BJJ
Tuesday Off
Wednesday AM Weights and longer or multiple Met-Con
Thursday AM Weights and Met-Con
Thursday PM MMA and No-Gi
Friday Off
Saturday AM Weights and Met-Con
Saturday AM 1:30 BJJ
Sunday Off / Active Recovery
__________________
What we think, or what we know, or what we believe, is in the end, of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do. -John Ruskin
http://westvolusiawellness.com/
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08-01-2008, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Simonds
Here is my schedule. It is very flexible because I travel a lot for living. I basically work one major lift a day and assistance lifts plus met-con. I am 38 and I have played with a lot of different scenarios over the last year and this one seems to fit me well so far.
Monday AM Weights and Met-Con
Monday PM 2:30 Hours BJJ
Tuesday Off
Wednesday AM Weights and longer or multiple Met-Con
Thursday AM Weights and Met-Con
Thursday PM MMA and No-Gi
Friday Off
Saturday AM Weights and Met-Con
Saturday AM 1:30 BJJ
Sunday Off / Active Recovery
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Derek -
That's an interesting take. If you're willing and have time would you mind discussing some details on "Weights and Met-Con"
- David |
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08-01-2008, 01:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Deland, FL
Posts: 4,232
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My training log is here and I detail out all the stuff I do both weights and BJJ. Currently I am on a hybrid program that is modeled off of Gant's. For met-con I either do what Greg has posted on the main page or some bastard child variant of whatever Leo or Gant have done. I try to keep my met-cons to the 5 minute range so I am simulating a round in BJJ. I will do longer met-cons but am avoiding any over 20 minutes right now.
If you look at my log and have any questions I would love to answer them. My log is titled Derek's Mass Gain Manifesto and Milestone Log. Gant's workout log is also a phenomenal resource for ideas as he is training in Judo.
Like I said if you see anything that you need clarity on just post or email me and I will help you out.
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What we think, or what we know, or what we believe, is in the end, of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do. -John Ruskin
http://westvolusiawellness.com/
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08-03-2008, 10:03 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Simonds
My training log is here and I detail out all the stuff I do both weights and BJJ. Currently I am on a hybrid program that is modeled off of Gant's. For met-con I either do what Greg has posted on the main page or some bastard child variant of whatever Leo or Gant have done. I try to keep my met-cons to the 5 minute range so I am simulating a round in BJJ. I will do longer met-cons but am avoiding any over 20 minutes right now.
If you look at my log and have any questions I would love to answer them. My log is titled Derek's Mass Gain Manifesto and Milestone Log. Gant's workout log is also a phenomenal resource for ideas as he is training in Judo.
Like I said if you see anything that you need clarity on just post or email me and I will help you out.
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COOL! I'll check it out for sure and fire off any questions. I find interest in what you're up to since I'm a BJJ guy myself and am interested in how different training approaches impact (positively or negatively) one's training results in BJJ.
Thanks again!
David. |
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08-08-2008, 09:25 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2
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google steve maxwell.
For bjj S&C you cannot go wrong.
tell him melrose sent you.
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