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01-17-2009, 10:55 PM
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Looked up the basics behind the ultimate diet thing.... Would make sense, like you say, Neill, to go low carb, upping the carbs after the strength workouts.
Reading about how people feel during depletion workouts on low carbs is not getting me too excited about this, though. I'm equally concerned about performance as fat loss.
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01-18-2009, 01:03 AM
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I've not done UD2.0, but I believe in Lyle's approaches.
I would also check out his article series on fat loss for athletes.
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01-18-2009, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Júlíus G. Magnússon
Looked up the basics behind the ultimate diet thing.... Would make sense, like you say, Neill, to go low carb, upping the carbs after the strength workouts.
Reading about how people feel during depletion workouts on low carbs is not getting me too excited about this, though. I'm equally concerned about performance as fat loss.
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Most of those diets are for bodybuilders....not for athletes. Tried Body Opus a while back....it worked...but I felt like crap.
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01-20-2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell
Most of those diets are for bodybuilders....not for athletes. Tried Body Opus a while back....it worked...but I felt like crap.
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hah i never thought of it that way. a bodybuilder diet will inherently make you feel like crap. so true.
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01-20-2009, 09:11 PM
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I think it depends on what kind of athlete we're talking about.
A power athlete may do well on a diet that looks similar to one that a bodybuilder may do depending on what "stage of prep" they're in.
UD2.0 has several versions if I understand correctly. Even an endurance version.
I'm not necessarily defending or recommending it, just making a point.
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01-21-2009, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Derek Weaver
A power athlete may do well on a diet that looks similar to one that a bodybuilder may do depending on what "stage of prep" they're in.
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If it's the quick timetable (aka drop alot of fat and save muscle in short time) "show" prep type of diet....then I would avoid it. As I've seen plenty of BBs getting ready for shows and need B12 shots just to function daily.
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01-21-2009, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Júlíus G. Magnússon
Reading about how people feel during depletion workouts on low carbs is not getting me too excited about this, though. I'm equally concerned about performance as fat loss.
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I can't argue that part. I felt great for the most part on the diet, but the depletion workouts were grueling, and performance on those days suffered.
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01-21-2009, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Neill Occhiogrosso
I can't argue that part. I felt great for the most part on the diet, but the depletion workouts were grueling, and performance on those days suffered.
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I've been on about 19-23% carbs the last few days, ~30% protein and ~50% fat. Total less than 1200 Calories. And I'm thinking the carbs may be a bit low, I mean I've been feeling like a piece of shit during the last three days worth of metcon workouts. Did Fran, for example, and my time was worse than the first time I met her. Don't know how much of that is nutrition, though, since I haven't been able to do any kind of metcons for about six months (except for the odd one I decided to try and usually left my back aching).
Anyway, I plan on upping the carbs and Calorie intake a little bit over the weekend after the strength workouts, doing this for two weeks and then weighing myself and seeing how I feel before I decide whether to change anything or not.
This would put me pretty close to the Ultimate Diet 2.0 thing I read about.
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