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Old 07-16-2009, 09:21 PM   #11
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My info came from the SS wiki, and various sources including Stronglifts.com. I've done TM (recently) and worked up to a 160kg high bar squat (A2G), 95kg push press and 110kg clean whilst eating to maintain a bodyweight of 77kg. I don't think I need to buy PP as the idea of TM is simple to understand, and I know it works. It has worked for strength gains - but will it put mass on a high intermediate/advanced lifter?

I may be mistaken, but when you wrote:



I didn't actually mean 'mass gains' to mean large gains in strength. I mean actual gains in body mass.
this strikes me as a ridiculous question now that i re-read the thread. forget my earlier message.

if you are truly walking around at sub 10% bf and doing 3 days a week of strenght training in a format as described, you should already know if you're getting bigger or not.

good luck with whatever it is your doing there.
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:01 AM   #12
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this strikes me as a ridiculous question now that i re-read the thread. forget my earlier message.

if you are truly walking around at sub 10% bf and doing 3 days a week of strenght training in a format as described, you should already know if you're getting bigger or not.

good luck with whatever it is your doing there.
How is it a ridiculous question? I did TM a few months ago (only relatively recently) with the expressed intention to get stronger but stay at the same weight, which I've already mentioned. Mass gain didn't come into it. So I knew I was NOT getting bigger.

You may think it as a ridiculous question, but I'm a true newbie when it comes to mass gain. I have quite a bit of experience with CF, strength training, eating to support GPP, fat loss and suchlike, but not putting on weight because I've never tried to do it in any systematic way.

Can you not see my concern? Eating a massive calorie excess and doing only one volume session a week - obviously weight will be added, but in my mind most will be fat for this very reason. Unless working up to one set of a 3RM in my chosen exercises on the intensity day will also be an adequate stimulus to add lean mass?

I'm sorry if I'm irking some people here (it feels like it). But I'm not prepared to invest time and money (only milk money, but still) into a programme unless I have a clear vision of what the outcome is going to be.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:51 AM   #13
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i wasn't clear. what i mean is programs don't mean shit. TM,10x3, 5,3,1,5x5, EDT or something you pull out of muscle and fitness will work if you really bust ass and drink your milk. sets and reps don't matter.

if you just want to get bigger, don't invest in programs, invest in time under the bar.

i recommend this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_zRDjzB5s watch all 5 parts.

to answer a different question. yes i got bigger doing one volume session a week, i got bigger doing 3 per week and i got bigger squatting heavy every other week
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Ok, I get the picture. Thanks, I'm just gonna go right ahead and do it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:58 AM   #15
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Yeah, Dave is pretty much right.

Work hard and eat.
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:47 PM   #16
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TM works for mass, it's working for me right now. Up 4 pounds with only a very little bit of fat in 5 weeks. Eating 3 big meals of whole food a day and quart of milk. Best advice is to be conservative with the weight on your volume day, really push it on intensity day. Really fun program. Good luck.
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:31 AM   #17
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Yep dave is defo right. I put on my best mass gains doing TM.. but it was the 6 pints of milk and daily fry-up which did it not the program!!
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