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11-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald Lee
Mike,
Also, note this from Chapter 9 in "Strength and Power in Sport," which is edited by Paavo Komi. Chapter 9 is written by Walter Herzog and Rachid Ait-Haddou from the University of Calgary:
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I wonder if Dr Herzog is familiar with some of the top leve triathletes? At Clearwater this year the top guys were riding 28mph for 56 miles, then running sub 6:00 pace for 13.1 miles off the bike.
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12-11-2009, 12:43 PM
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Location: Queens, NY
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Originally Posted by Mike Prevost
Have not read any of that stuff. I can see strength training modalities like jumping and sprinting being less of a problem than traditional squats. WHen I was training for Iornman, there was no way I could recover from any lower body strength training and still be able to put in quality sessions in the run and on the bike. I think most elite level endurance athletes would have the same problem. Why fatigue yourself with an exercise modality that has little specificity for your particular event? Besides, if I had an extra 30 minutes, that time was better spent on an extra run.
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Most likely you didn't build up to the level of volume that you needed to train strength and endurance simultaneously. It takes a certain adaptation period to be able to follow up a heavy strength session with an endurance session, or vice versa. I never understood the more is better mantra except in base-building, in which case I could understand.
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12-11-2009, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Prevost
Donald
Have not read any of that stuff. I can see strength training modalities like jumping and sprinting being less of a problem than traditional squats. WHen I was training for Iornman, there was no way I could recover from any lower body strength training and still be able to put in quality sessions in the run and on the bike. I think most elite level endurance athletes would have the same problem. Why fatigue yourself with an exercise modality that has little specificity for your particular event? Besides, if I had an extra 30 minutes, that time was better spent on an extra run.
Stop and go sports like soccer, basketball, and football are different.
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do you really mean...I love LSD... don't wast my time with actually studies/data/etc...
"if I had an extra 30 minutes, that time was better spent on an extra run." ...or you could have read some of the info that has been mentioned???
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12-12-2009, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric AUciello
do you really mean...I love LSD... don't wast my time with actually studies/data/etc...
"if I had an extra 30 minutes, that time was better spent on an extra run." ...or you could have read some of the info that has been mentioned???
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Hi Eric. I would respond but I cannot figure out what you are saying. Maybe if you wrote actual sentences it would make more sense?
I am not a LSD/Maffetone fan. There is a place for LSD but LSD all the time is a waste and not optimal.
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12-21-2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Prevost
Hi Eric. I would respond but I cannot figure out what you are saying. Maybe if you wrote actual sentences it would make more sense?
I am not a LSD/Maffetone fan. There is a place for LSD but LSD all the time is a waste and not optimal.
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Maffetone's method does work, but it does that a very long time to top out your highest speed at a low HR. However, there have been plenty of other methods that have come out that are also effective. When I was using Maffetone's training methods, I was seeing my speed increase while my HR stayed low. But I also ran out of patience for it after several months and decided to give up being a slave to the HR monitor. After trying low-HR/low-intensity work, high-HR/high-intensity work, and everything in-between, I've found my body seems to be good with a mix of both low and high efforts.
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