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10-05-2010, 07:42 AM
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I haven't seen the testing guidelines, so unless they have very specific instructions for the breath hold, it's very technique based. Sitting still and just taking a big breath and holding it is not going to give you a great score. But if you know how to prepare for a breath hold, the way free divers do it, even an untrained person can hold their breath for much longer. You could literally double your time.
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10-07-2010, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Charleston, SC
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Entered my results into the website and man I suck:
Strength - 5.5
Muscular endurance - 3.0
Aerobic Fitness - 4.5
Anaerobic Fitness - 6.0
Explosive Power - 6.0
Overall 5.0
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10-07-2010, 11:20 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Yeah, I love Joel and he's smart as hell but I have to say that I'm thinking his muscular endurance scale might not be entirely accurate.
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10-08-2010, 05:55 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yael Grauer
I asked Joel and he said the numbers were fairly average for 165 lbs. because he can do 20-25 pull-ups and 100 pushups and 90 situps and weighs 210. I'm not really sure I agree with the pullup being based on weight thing--unless you are a big guy with huge legs and small arms or something. Also he said the breath hold was a factor.
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Hmm...my breath hold is what probably brought up my (aerobic) endurance number. I did a pretty-good-for-me 1:42 in the breath hold, but my pushups, situps, and pullups are nowhere near Joel's numbers and he outweighs me. Some of that was expected because I tested while injured, but even my best-ever numbers aren't going to match 20-25/100/90.
I pulled an overall 5.0, which is fine. Mostly it just highlighted things I already knew I needed to work on, and made me run 1.5 miles for the first time in my life. That was kind of fun in retrospect but with asthma I won't do it again until the next test day.  |
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10-08-2010, 04:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Yeah, the run kicked my ass... I need to work on my cardio for sure.
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10-09-2010, 07:41 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yael Grauer
Yeah, the run kicked my ass... I need to work on my cardio for sure.
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My cardio is actually fine for actual competition or for biking.
But running? Well, let's just say it was an interesting choice. It was a raw test of my 1.5 mile running ability unbiased by actual running technique or experience on my part. |
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10-30-2010, 09:35 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Joel's line of thinking on slow long-distance is really different than a lot of S+C coaches who work with MMA fighters who really push things like intervals... Not that anyone is right or wrong but he's the only one I've seen really emphasize it. I had Troy Andereson (former wrestler) write me a six-week program to get in shape for BJJ (before I train again--long story) and it has no running in it other than hill sprints; a bit of walking for active recovery though.
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10-31-2010, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Thought this may be relevant. Bret Contreras did an interview with Joel.
http://bretcontreras.wordpress.com/2...joel-jamieson/
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11-03-2010, 12:52 AM
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If anyone was wondering what the Sherdog thread Donald was referring to is, I believe it's this one:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/ho...roblem-788235/
First couple of pages are the standard Sherdog foolishness, gets better later on.
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11-03-2010, 03:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
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Is that when Joel announces himself as the new sheriff in town and all that they hold dear is in fact a lie?
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