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Old 10-26-2010, 04:40 PM   #11
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If Chris McCormack came to you and said “I want to win Kona this year (again)” how would you train him?
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I’d tell him I can’t train him. An athlete like that is such a specialist that it would take me 2-3 years just to get him moving correctly enough to handle what I wanted to do to him.
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Uhhh...what'd you do last year when you won the damn thing? Cool. Do that again.
Then again, I'm not very smart.
I just picked up on something else.
"..it would take me 2-3 years just to get him moving correctly enough to handle what I wanted to do to him."

What is he going to do to him?

A coach shouldn't be doing anything to his/her athletes right? Did I miss something growing up?
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:09 PM   #12
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New client/couch meeting.

Client: I want you to train me. I'm the best in the world at what I do, and I think I can do better.

CFE Couch: I vill break you. You vill either not finish races or finish hours behind ze leaders. You vill not be able to handle the verkouts I vant you to do for 2 to 3 years.

Client: Um...yeah, that's not what I was looking for at all.
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:46 PM   #13
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New client/couch meeting.

Client: I want you to train me. I'm the best in the world at what I do, and I think I can do better.

CFE Couch: I vill break you. You vill either not finish races or finish hours behind ze leaders. You vill not be able to handle the verkouts I vant you to do for 2 to 3 years.

Client: Um...yeah, that's not what I was looking for at all.
Nicely played.
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:55 PM   #14
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He placed 89th in the Western States 100, and there are 369 starters, so the dude's elite place is about 75% of the starters. I'd bet that's not even the top third of men.

Don't get me wrong, that's an insane race, and just getting a buckle is a pretty awesome accomplishment. But, uhh, what?? From the CFE website "This program only requires 6-8 hours per week to COMPETE at Ultra/Ironman distances.)"...
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:57 PM   #15
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how come they can't win by just being "unscared" ?
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:03 PM   #16
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* Angeles Crest 100 mile run, 2007 34th 27:39
* Western States 100 mile run, 2006, 89th, 26:47
* Mt Disappointment 50k run, 2006, 26th, 5:47:11
* Ironman Canada 2004 478th, 11:33:47
The article was written a few months ago. What were the finishes after starting CFE?
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:09 PM   #17
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The article was written a few months ago. What were the finishes after starting CFE?
That would assume the race was actually completed. DNF is the new gold medal winner.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:13 PM   #18
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He placed 89th in the Western States 100, and there are 369 starters, so the dude's elite place is about 75% of the starters. I'd bet that's not even the top third of men.

Don't get me wrong, that's an insane race, and just getting a buckle is a pretty awesome accomplishment. But, uhh, what?? From the CFE website "This program only requires 6-8 hours per week to COMPETE at Ultra/Ironman distances.)"...
One thing I would say, though, is that if CFE training truly can get you to finish an ultra/ironman in a time that isn't completely embarrassing in 6-8 hours per week, I think that sounds like a very good thing for a recreational amateur. The status quo is to get divorced to support your ultra habit unless your partner really likes chafed nipples and black toenails.
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One thing I would say, though, is that if CFE training truly can get you to finish an ultra/ironman in a time that isn't completely embarrassing in 6-8 hours per week, I think that sounds like a very good thing for a recreational amateur. The status quo is to get divorced to support your ultra habit unless your partner really likes chafed nipples and black toenails.
No doubt, and if that was what the CFE marketing actually said, cool. Whether it's true for someone who hasn't already put in the miles is a different question.

But CFE says you can get competitive in 6-8 hours/week, and that's a shit from a totally different breed of bull.
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Old 10-27-2010, 12:05 AM   #20
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One thing I would say, though, is that if CFE training truly can get you to finish an ultra/ironman in a time that isn't completely embarrassing in 6-8 hours per week, I think that sounds like a very good thing for a recreational amateur. The status quo is to get divorced to support your ultra habit unless your partner really likes chafed nipples and black toenails.
I think CFE would work great for a recreational athlete. I mean, look at marathons, most people are walking them at some point and just trying to muster enough energy to finish it. Even triathlons. Your recreational weekend triathlete is just looking to finish. If you want to win, you have to log the miles, the laps, and the hours.

I am by no means elite, not even close. But in my preparation, 2 mile swims and 6 mile runs were normal and performed weekly. Sure there was strength work and sprint work on other days, but I usually had at least one long swim of at least 4000 yds and at least one long-ish run, usually around 5 miles per week. Occasionally a 15K, and sometimes longer swims, but I think past results show us that you have to put the time and work in. I'm sure Lance Armstrong isn't doing one tabata workout a day.
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