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Old 10-31-2010, 10:16 PM   #1
Michael Korczowski
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a while ago a blog published a consolidated list of athletic skill standards for "level 1" to "level 5" athletes (e.g. 5k times, backsquat-bodyweight ratios, etc...)

I can't find it any more. Anyone remember where it is?
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:00 PM   #2
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Lightbulb my humble take on these sort of lists...

most of these lists are complete hogwash or bullocks, if only people would understand that it doesn't matter what other do or think, that training is about oneself - unless you compete of course - being a better being tomorrow than today, staying healthy, having fun and not only talking but walking the path...
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:06 PM   #3
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Yeah, and take into account bodyweight, anthropometry, etc, and those lists just become silly.
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:04 AM   #4
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a while ago a blog published a consolidated list of athletic skill standards for "level 1" to "level 5" athletes (e.g. 5k times, backsquat-bodyweight ratios, etc...)

I can't find it any more. Anyone remember where it is?
Crossfit Level 4 has a pretty well written skill standards list. You might try looking that up. I don't know if it's the one you saw before, but it has a few interesting benchmarks such as carrying a sandbag matching your bodyweight for 1 mile.
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:15 AM   #5
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and lets not forget age and gender, really the irony - I often feel - is that the very same people eating every word from rippetoe as if it were manna, fully buying into his novice -intermediate - elite scheme, and believing his definitions of said states, that is your an intermediate once linear prog. stops working, that very same people cannot understand that this sort of definition, by definition implies individual standards... In other words, a 100 kg squat can be elite elite level, absolutely!
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:05 AM   #6
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I tend to agree with Peter here.

Standards and benchmarks have their place for both a coach and an athlete. You have to make to make assessments and you need to measure progress but people become obsessed with facts and figures. Rip took those tables out of the book when it was republished and reference to them on his forum tends to send him into a rage.

And those CrossFit standards are absolutely retarded. I saw them the other day for the first time in 4 years (I think) and they just made me laugh.
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:03 AM   #7
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as I said, you compete? different story but the average trainee? C'mon what difference does it make?
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:23 AM   #8
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Exactly Peter.

Striving for something like, I don't know, say 15 OHS at bodyweight is silly....
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:05 AM   #9
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I like Rip's charts, and the BFS ones. They have given me some solid goals to work towards, not that they are the be-all-end-all of my training. Then again, as a 6' 195# guy, I think I fit pretty well into who their "target" was with those. Knowing what is applicable or not to the person and where that fits into the context of one's training is the most important thing.

For example, my levers are terrible for DLing. Hitting average numbers in DLing will be a huge chore for me and I'm not sure it's worth it...but the numbers are always there for me to choose as a goal.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:19 AM   #10
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see those numbers aren't average, that's my whole point... everyone has a potential and a performance, the closer the later to the former, the closer you are to true elite status.
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