Just reread CrossFit Journal on Metabolic Conditioning...

[Geoffrey Thompson]

Originally Posted by Andrew Wilson

That makes sense, he has great potential in olympic lifting & I keep seeing him in those videos and just keep thinking "why is this guy stuck in this CrossFit", he could very well CJ 170 with those BS & DL numbers if he went after. If he spent a good 6 weeks with a great OL coach he could be snatch 130-140 no prob. I feel so bad for these crossfit people, so much potential being misguided

IIRC, his background is as a LW strongman. It's probably better to be toward the top of CF right now than to be an okay strongman or okay oly guy.

[Brian DeGennaro]

He pitched for the Brooklyn Dodgers prior.

I'm positive Dave could snatch 150 and CJ 180 if he brought up his mobility and worked the lifts. I wish so badly he and I had a chance to work on it, because I more than anyone, wanted to see him progress onto superb lifts.

[Joe Birch]

As much as I agree with everything that's been said and hate all the bullshit that surrounds the marketing of crossfit, you can't deny that crossfit has manged to convince a lot of people to actually exercise with intensity which wouldn't have previously been doing so.

Watching half the people in my commercial gym doing a million isolations or sitting on the crosstrainer for an hour makes me physically ill and I'd much rather see people doing a crossfit style workout.... the lesser of two evils So as much as they are lying about "elite" training systems, at the end of the day most people that start doing it have no intention of being elite they just want to look better, so at least they arn't a complete waste of space cluttering up a globo gym.

[Wayne Riddle]

Originally Posted by Joe Birch

As much as I agree with everything that's been said and hate all the bullshit that surrounds the marketing of crossfit, you can't deny that crossfit has manged to convince a lot of people to actually exercise with intensity which wouldn't have previously been doing so.

Agree, and hopefully people as they start Crossfit have a affiliate that does some smart programming or they get into fitness and start to do their own research.

[Andrew Wilson]

[Chad Cilli]

Originally Posted by Brian DeGennaro

Orlando or Lipson, but that might be giving anyone too much credit. They had an Olympic lifter with a 400lb CJ try it, he got like 12 if I recall?

It was Max Mormont who attempted the 15 reps touch and go clean and jerks with 225#

I would say that none of the Crossfitters could accomplish this feat. Max is incredibly strong, I think his last clean and jerk was 190kg. If he can only complete 12 reps with 225#, I'm sure that none of the Crossfit guys can beat him.

[Derek Weaver]

Originally Posted by Joe Birch

As much as I agree with everything that's been said and hate all the bullshit that surrounds the marketing of crossfit, you can't deny that crossfit has manged to convince a lot of people to actually exercise with intensity which wouldn't have previously been doing so.

Watching half the people in my commercial gym doing a million isolations or sitting on the crosstrainer for an hour makes me physically ill and I'd much rather see people doing a crossfit style workout.... the lesser of two evils So as much as they are lying about "elite" training systems, at the end of the day most people that start doing it have no intention of being elite they just want to look better, so at least they arn't a complete waste of space cluttering up a globo gym.

I'll step out and disagree. I would rather see people toil away on the machines and doing 16 sets of curls, but without blowing out a shoulder or throwing up after their workout.

Being underfed and a dipshit doesn't justify working out with intensity. Stupid is as stupid does.

[Garrett Smith]

Originally Posted by Andrew Wilson

Very very true. Then you get stuff like this video: http://sicfit.com/coverage/237386-A-...Fitness-Teaser

hahahaha!

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsRgQ-n3Lyo

And more attitude like this:


All this "your exercising is inferior to us, we're elite because we use gymnastic rings and attempt 100 pound snatches". . . . . For god's sake its exercise, not a cock measuring contest. What is the psychological issue that these people have, that they need to prove themselves so much superior than other people, that they have to resort to comparing exercise regimes and their exercise equipment. LOL! Really, what's the deal with this?! Not only are they shoving out terrible, wrong information about training, but building a social cult around it, and to people outside that social group, they're challenging them to competitions. . . . . . I mean, it's like watching monkey groups on the discovery channel. Its like they, themselves, are actually a branch from the body building culture they hate so much, its just they're using different exercises.

And they act like they're the first to use gymnastics with weightliting and sprinting, pole vaulters have been using this combination for 6 decades, so have track and field teams. A good track and field coach will have the same gym layout, plus the coach will have actual accreditations and an education, and an actual training program.

I like that to get the info, you have to email dear leader. Isn't that the point of writing an article like this (usually)? To give that sort of info?

[Andrew Wilson]

[Steve Shafley]

The deliberate deception surrounding the injury rate of the average Crossfit gym is the most important topic at hand.

A quick cruise through assorted XF box blogs reveals injuries are frequent and common.