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Old 01-14-2011, 07:00 AM   #21
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We're NOT going to NOT program it because people can get hurt with it.
Okay, I can see programming a potentially dangerous movement in an exercise program. I mean, I climb ropes. Mess up, and you're not going to be happy. But . . . done right you're not going to have a problem.

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Ok. How about not programming it because it's a largely pointless, inferior movement?
That's a pretty good argument. Especially since it seems clear that the opinion here is that if you do them, you're cruising for injury far out of proportion to any benefits of them.

#1: Can be dangerous + useful movement = still useful under certain circumstances.
#2: Is always dangerous if done correctly + margin movement easily outdone by safer movements = pointless, drop it.

GHD Situps sound like a clear case of #2.

I've done GHD situps once or maybe twice. They were hard, and I didn't have to do a lot of them, and honestly I haven't missed them in the (long) time since then. I vastly prefer to be facing the other direction and just do glute-ham raises and back extensions and those Smitty band-resisted planks on them instead.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:19 AM   #22
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GHD Sit ups:

I've used them off and on for over, I'd say, 20 years.

This issue is entirely with how they are performed. You see:

1. Too fast.
2. Too sloppy
3. Too much volume
4. Used for "met-con" purposes. Which relates directly to points 1 and 2. Using GHDs to elicit a rapid heart rate and large energy use is just stupid.

For me, 2-3 slower sets with me reaching down and touching the floor, for 10-12 reps was plenty of work. If you have to blast them with high reps, then it's not being programmed right.

Due to the positions, which can be precarious, it's got a big potential to hurt something. The suggestions Glassman wrote to help mitigate those are silly and useless.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:54 AM   #23
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:13 AM   #24
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It's hard to know whether any of these are rhabdo yet, so I wouldn't start counting. I've certainly had DOMS in my abs almost that bad, though it was not from situps.
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Yeah only the diagnosed cases get an official Rhabdo Count.
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How far back in time does this search/count go?
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:07 AM   #27
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How far back in time does this search/count go?
Any undiscovered diagnosed rhabdo case caused by CrossFit that I don't have recorded will count.
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Old 01-15-2011, 08:44 AM   #28
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I was involved with a diagnosed case of rhabdo in 2009. Friend of mine got it after jumping pull-ups. He's OK now. It was on the CF discussion boards at the time. Wasn't sure if you were searching back then & beyond!
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Another case mentioned on the message boards: http://www.board.crossfit.com/showpo...5&postcount=15

If it hasn't already been mentioned and accounted for.

EDIT: NEVER MIND he already posted about it.
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