IF and early morning workout

daniel doiron · 04-16-2007, 11:27 AM

I have been trying IF on an occasional basis by stopping food intake after supper (± 6pm) and going till ± 11am the next day. I then eat between ±11am and ± 6 pm and consume the same amounts as I would have on a regular day. I currently have a job that allows me to have...

Breakfast and snack portions at 11am,
Lunch portions at ±12:30am,
Snack portions at ±2:30pm,
Snack portions at ±4:30pm during prep of supper,
Supper portions at ±5:30pm...

...My difficulty is that I typically workout at 6:30 am and would have had something to eat after, but now I don't have anything OR if I do, it's only a banana and ±3gr creatine.
Don't know if I should be having the banana or not. And I don't know if not having anything post-workout will affect my recovery.

Any suggestions or am I doing ok?

Thanks !

Robb Wolf · 04-16-2007, 12:21 PM

Daniel-
Is it possible for ou to wrap up all the food earlier in the day?

Mike ODonnell · 04-16-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel doiron

...My difficulty is that I typically workout at 6:30 am and would have had something to eat after, but now I don't have anything OR if I do, it's only a banana and ±3gr creatine.
Don't know if I should be having the banana or not. And I don't know if not having anything post-workout will affect my recovery.

I would think to really do IF you will not be eating anything during your "fasting" hours which could be from 6pm-11am or 3pm-8am (which I think Robb was hinting at as far as getting your calories earlier). If you eat anything that promotes an insulin response then your fast is over (at least that's how I see it). Because you will shut down glucagon and fat burning. Depending on the type of workouts you are doing, are you looking more for fat loss or performance, and how many times a week you are working out...you may not need any pwo...or you may just want to stick with some amino acids. It's really so individualistic that the best way is "try and see what happens".

daniel doiron · 04-16-2007, 01:48 PM

I guess I could. If I was living alone, I would have no objection to it, but I like to cook and talk and all that jolly stuff with the wife after work. Plus sitting with a glass of water or a tea at the dinner table while the others have the best meal of the day...I could'nt do it !

daniel doiron · 04-16-2007, 01:53 PM

I thought I had been reading that there would be benefits to eating a high glycemic food immediatly post workout to recover and keep the quantity to a minimum and then continue the fast after...as if nothing was consumed.
I thought I read something like 'people who are use to fasting will return to the fasting type metabolism faster after the consumption of that recovery food'...

Don't know, but I will start taking notes and try both approaches.

Allen Yeh · 04-17-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel doiron

I guess I could. If I was living alone, I would have no objection to it, but I like to cook and talk and all that jolly stuff with the wife after work. Plus sitting with a glass of water or a tea at the dinner table while the others have the best meal of the day...I could'nt do it !

That is why I end my fast later in the day as well.

Allen Yeh · 04-17-2007, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel doiron

I thought I had been reading that there would be benefits to eating a high glycemic food immediatly post workout to recover and keep the quantity to a minimum and then continue the fast after...as if nothing was consumed.
I thought I read something like 'people who are use to fasting will return to the fasting type metabolism faster after the consumption of that recovery food'...

Don't know, but I will start taking notes and try both approaches.

Since you don't workout 7 days a week you can just take the approach of breaking your fast earlier on some days but on non workout/recovery days to do a longer fast?

So one day you may only be fasting ~13 hours 6 pm - 7 am but then the next day you just start your eating period at regular time or later? So it's a 15-18 hour fast?

daniel doiron · 04-18-2007, 04:06 AM

Here is the schedule I am thinking of adopting:

Monday through Thursday - fast from 6pm of previous day till 12am of current day.

Friday - fast from 6pm of previous day till 5pm on Friday and limiting caloric intake to only what is available in a 'regular' surving during supper.

Saturday and Sunday - regular eating schedule, plus a little extra to compensate for lack of caloric intake on Friday.

Any thoughts on that plan ?