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12-03-2006, 01:10 PM
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I read somewhere recently that copper and zinc don't go together really well, though that could be mitigated by the chelation, eh?
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12-03-2006, 05:59 PM
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Zinc increases the excreation rate of copper. I think Dr. Eades had a piece on this a few weeks ago. Jarrow knew aobut this issue years ago and cooked up thier version of ZMA, with a smidge of added copper to offset any loss. I really like that company and thier products.
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12-04-2006, 12:51 AM
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I remember looking into this a long time ago since it is indeed cheaper to buy the Zinc and Magnesium separately. In my reasearch and in talking to people however I was informed that the a zinc molecule and a magnesium molecule is not the same as a ZMA molecule. The pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of the more complex ZMA molecule are different and so it isn't an apples to apples comparision. There's something special about the way ZMA behaves and i haven't quite understood all the intricate details yet.
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12-04-2006, 03:56 PM
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The metal ions are attached to a monomethionine aspartate moity...must be some kind of transport mechanism triggered by this. The fundamental issue however is Zinc and magnesium deficiency. Addressing that, by whatever means, should fix the problem. Unless its the monomethionine aspartate that is doing something!
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12-04-2006, 04:08 PM
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"Magnesium frequently comest as oxide and that will simply work like a laxative."
Sweet... I've become tolerant to Secrets of the Psyllium.
Brad
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12-04-2006, 10:20 PM
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Perhaps it's my unfamiliarity with the search function (I tried, really!).... but what is ZMA?
Hey Taha, who is that stunning soon to be really stunning and totally buff lady in the background of your photo??  (it's me!) |
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12-04-2006, 11:54 PM
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Robb, it's one of those black box things mate... dunno what's in the box, only know what comes out the other end 
Allison, I don't know who that buff lady is... i think she was working in sets with me or something |
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12-05-2006, 05:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allison Barns
Perhaps it's my unfamiliarity with the search function (I tried, really!).... but what is ZMA?
Hey Taha, who is that stunning soon to be really stunning and totally buff lady in the background of your photo?? (it's me!) |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_(supplement) |
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12-06-2006, 05:26 PM
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Allen - Thanks for the link.
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12-07-2006, 07:11 PM
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Robb,
you're too smart for your own good...
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