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Old 12-09-2006, 08:40 AM   #51
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Robb,
you're too smart for your own good...
I keep trying to convince Nicki of that fact...she pee's herself laughing at me. It hurts.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:24 PM   #52
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In that case its probably Nicky who is actually the smart one!
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:34 PM   #53
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I saw Poliquin (I think) mention that a test for zinc deficiency is to put some liquefied zinc compound in your mouth. If it tastes like a car bumper, then your zinc levels are ok. If you are deficient, you won't taste a thing.

After taking ZMA last night, I had a distinctly metallic taste in the back of my mouth this morning. I took some this afternoon (as my evening meal is too late to get it in before bed on an empty stomach) and got it again a while after.

Am I just taking crazy pills or is there something to this?
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Old 12-14-2006, 07:48 PM   #54
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I took ZMA on Tuesday.....just woke up...
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:29 AM   #55
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I took ZMA on Tuesday.....just woke up...
That's some high quality stuff.
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Old 12-15-2006, 05:32 PM   #56
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No, that's called Opium.


aka Vitamin O.


It is an ancient Chinese herbal remedy for conciousness.
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Old 01-01-2007, 08:55 AM   #57
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Are we on board with the ZMA B4 bed? As an aging athlete (47) I'm looking to enhanced recovery. I'm not sure I'm healing faster I'm still sore in the morning.
I'm experiencing the odd dream state I have heard mentioned by others.
I am so glad to have seen this thread. After starting ZMA a couple days ago I can see a dramatic, probably 2 hours, difference in the time I sleep. Fantastic! Dreams or not, this stuff is great, no hype.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:54 PM   #58
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ZMA is a foundational supplement as far as I am concerned. When considering noticable results and effectiveness, I personally rank it above creatine, whey, aminos, etc . If my budget was extremely tight, I would only take ZMA and a good multi.....and some multis even include a ZMA blend. If I could afford to eat strictly organic, I wouldn't even take a multi.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:31 AM   #59
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Here's another thought into how ZMA is so effective:

ZMA shuttles out circulating blood glucose
Low blood glucose gives you that tired feeling (aka going to sleep after taking it)
Low glucose = low insulin
low insulin = high GH
GH is maximally released during the first 2-3 hours of REM sleep
so ZMA maximizes GH release and body repair at night
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:30 PM   #60
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I do not understand what the difference is between this and just getting zinc and magnesium aspartate and b12 separately?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_%28supplement%29
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