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Old 08-02-2007, 10:09 AM   #21
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Here's the ORIGINAL BILL STARR NO DEADLIFT ROUTINE, archived from the now defunct APLE site.

http://web.archive.org/web/200310260...approach1.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200602141...approach2.html
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:25 AM   #22
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Here's the ORIGINAL BILL STARR NO DEADLIFT ROUTINE, archived from the now defunct APLE site.

http://web.archive.org/web/200310260...approach1.html

http://web.archive.org/web/200602141...approach2.html

Steve, can you by any chance find the Bill Starr article showing how to improve your bench without bnching that much?
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:45 AM   #23
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I really don't think there was one.

Let me do a quick look, though.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:17 PM   #24
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Thanks for the article Steve I may have to try that some time this winter...since my deadlift is stuck under 400. Going heavy on deads (for me) always ends up getting me injured it seems like.

The only thing in the article I'm hesitant about is the super heavy good mornings and making sure you round your back? That seems in my mind to be like a bad idea?

From the article he is saying this right?

2x's a week for 6 weeks
5 x 5 power cleans progressing to your max for 5
5 x 5 shrugs (seems to be more like a high rack pull?) working up to 50-100 + best deadlift ( the last 2 sets are 3?)
5 x 5 clean grip high pulls - progressing to your clean max ( the last 2 sets are for 3 reps?)
5 x 5 good mornings
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:36 AM   #25
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This is a good discussion. As for as deadlifting without specifically training for it Ross Enamait recently pulled 495lbs.

http://rosstraining.com/blog/?p=190

He is obviously very string, snatching a 125lb dumbell, doing glute ham raises with multiple weight vests, pistols with additional weight.

I recently finished three weeks of heavy (for me) deadlifting, maxing out at 270lbs x 2 at a BW of 160lbs. I know its not much weight, but its the most i have ever done. I have trained the lift sporadically here and there, but never with much consistency. Before this i was doing Ross's 50 day program from Infinite Intensity. I am going to switch out my max effort exercise to something else for a few weeks, but i think i can hit double bodyweight by early next year. At 270lbs one of the limiting factors seemed to be my grip.

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Old 11-07-2007, 10:43 AM   #26
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Try doing some snatch grip deadlifts while standing on an elevated platform. Much like a box squat it will teach you how to explode out of the "hole" while also attacking the most weak area for the most part. No need to go heavy, maybe work from 50-75% 1RM, but you will not be able to pull heavy from that depth anyways.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:28 PM   #27
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For the past few weeks i have been trying to add weight to my deadlift every strength workout. I have just been doing a simple strength routine once a week similar to what Robb Wolf talks about when training Glen Cordoza. I figured i would try something like this once a week and see how it meshed with my grappling training and conditioning.

3-5x3 deadlifts
3-5x3 weighted chins
3-5x3 weighted dips

Since i am leaving for the holidays tonight i wanted to test my max deadlift before taking a break. Managed to pull 300 for one rep. I realize my previous max of 270 could have been heavier. 300 was a total different kind of effort, i was straining so hard on the way up i couldn't really see to well. Grip also seemed to be a limiting factor, i didnt mix grip it. I was going to try, but it felt kind of wierd. I should work on that with lower weights. At 168lbs i think double BW is doable fairly soon, especially if i drop these few pounds of holiday food.

After the break i will switch it up for a different movement, perhaps squats or snatch grip DL's, then retest later.



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