Podcast: Good Calories, Bad Calories

[Jay Cohen]

Originally Posted by Alicia Zhuang

I live in another country.

Bummer.
What country?

[Greg Davis]

The Q&Q podcast should be a regular on everyones rss feed reader.... (a Canadian plug)

[Jane Michel]

Originally Posted by Jay Cohen

Bummer.
What country?

Yeah it is hehe. Singapore.

[Jay Cohen]

Originally Posted by Alicia Zhuang

Yeah it is hehe. Singapore.

Alicia;

I'd save my money and just tap the wealth of information on this site, PM journal and other sites, like Modern Forager, etc. The book is a very challening read, least for me, and I'm not sure when done reading, it will change my eating habits, as I'm following a low carb, IF, Paleo diet presently.
Since I don't preach to the choir to make converts to CF or my eating habits, the need for in depth study of the history of Carbs, low fat, hight fat, exercisie is maybe overkill in my situation, though I know others on the boards will just eat it up.

Just my two cents for today.

[Jane Michel]

Originally Posted by Jay Cohen

I'd save my money and just tap the wealth of information on this site, PM journal and other sites, like Modern Forager, etc. The book is a very challening read, least for me, and I'm not sure when done reading, it will change my eating habits, as I'm following a low carb, IF, Paleo diet presently.
Since I don't preach to the choir to make converts to CF or my eating habits, the need for in depth study of the history of Carbs, low fat, hight fat, exercisie is maybe overkill in my situation, though I know others on the boards will just eat it up.

Hey Jay. Nah I do want to read it because I like understanding how things work.

[Jay Cohen]

Originally Posted by Alicia Zhuang

Hey Jay. Nah I do want to read it because I like understanding how things work.

Understand. Looks like you'll have to weight for the paperback to come out.
Have a good weekend.

[Allen Yeh]

Cool listen, I'll ahve to put this on my list of books to read.

[Stuart Mather]

Originally Posted by Tyler Weir

Thanks for that breakdown, as I mentioned, I'm Paleo now and trying IF again.

My diet does have a lot fruit in it though, so I should increase the leafy greens and decrease the fruits.

Eating a lot of fruit certainly isn't paleo Tyler. Modern fruit has been selectively bred for flavour and fructose since the neolithic. True paleo fruits, similar to the ones consumed by traditional living Austrailian Aborigines, and still growing wild in some parts of Australia you know where to look are hardly sweet at all. Even the 'starchy' tubers are pretty low in carbohydrate, being mostly fiber. All of which adds up to the so often overlooked fact that paleo sources of carbohydrate could never have amounted to more than a minor fraction of energy intake, because non of them were very energy dense, and would have taken a lot of effort for very little result. Coconuts are a very energy dense food, but they're a major source of fat, not carbohydrate

Without beating around the bush I think it's fair to say fructose is a metabolic poison in any amount. A little probably won't do you a lot of damage. But the less the better. Berries if you must, but most far lower carb veggies have at least as many flavonoids and antioxidants as berries. No question they aren't as delicious though. The human palate has a real thing for sugar. Which just wasn't selected out during the paleolithic because there wasn't much around, so there was no need to.

Eating a lot of fruit means that you won't have made much of a transition to being a fat burner, even though paleo is often assumed to be 'low (er) carb'. Long (fasting) periods without carbohydrate intake for a carb burner seem to produce headaches pretty reliably. If you really do want the health/bodycomp benefits of Low Carb/IF you'll have to ditch the fruit and force your metabolism to happily burn fat first, which unfortunately doesn't happen overnight. Sorry if I sound too blunt but consuming modern fruit is not paleo.

Stuart

[Greg Davis]

"Listener feedback on our interview with Gary Taubes, author of Good Calories, Bad Calories."

qq-2007-12-01_06-Good-Bad Calories revisited
http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/quirks_20071201_4057.mp3

[Tyler Weir]

Originally Posted by Stuart Mather

Eating a lot of fruit certainly isn't paleo Tyler. <snip>

Hey Stuart, I agree with you, I'm in the process of changing my carb sources to vegetable sources, and using fruit as a far less frequent treat.

Thanks for taking the time to post.