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Old 07-29-2008, 03:27 PM   #1
Travis Cruse
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If this topic has been covered somewhere else, I apologize for double-tapping it. But here is my question:

In an effort to up my strength-to-bodyweight ratio I have been incorporating some Starting Strength-type squat work (the full program later). On my current schedule, the heavy strength training and BJJ are on back-to-back days. I want to strength train and continue to roll, but I am considering doing them on the same day so I can take a true recovery day in between. I hope that makes sense. Here is my question in a nutshell...is rolling on my recovery day from lifting counterproductive to gaining mass and strength?

I think I already know the answer, but am looking for objective analysis. Thanks.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:07 PM   #2
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Depends how much BJJ you're doing.

In general, SS is a great standalone program. If you try to add stuff to it your strength gains will likely decrease. If you use a modified program like Gant's hybrid or MEBB you might see better results.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:31 PM   #3
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Here is my schedule. It is very flexible because I travel a lot for living. I basically work one major lift a day and assistance lifts plus met-con. I am 38 and I have played with a lot of different scenarios over the last year and this one seems to fit me well so far.

Monday AM Weights and Met-Con
Monday PM 2:30 Hours BJJ

Tuesday Off

Wednesday AM Weights and longer or multiple Met-Con

Thursday AM Weights and Met-Con
Thursday PM MMA and No-Gi

Friday Off

Saturday AM Weights and Met-Con
Saturday AM 1:30 BJJ

Sunday Off / Active Recovery
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:20 PM   #4
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Here is my schedule. It is very flexible because I travel a lot for living. I basically work one major lift a day and assistance lifts plus met-con. I am 38 and I have played with a lot of different scenarios over the last year and this one seems to fit me well so far.

Monday AM Weights and Met-Con
Monday PM 2:30 Hours BJJ

Tuesday Off

Wednesday AM Weights and longer or multiple Met-Con

Thursday AM Weights and Met-Con
Thursday PM MMA and No-Gi

Friday Off

Saturday AM Weights and Met-Con
Saturday AM 1:30 BJJ

Sunday Off / Active Recovery
Derek -

That's an interesting take. If you're willing and have time would you mind discussing some details on "Weights and Met-Con"

- David
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:44 PM   #5
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My training log is here and I detail out all the stuff I do both weights and BJJ. Currently I am on a hybrid program that is modeled off of Gant's. For met-con I either do what Greg has posted on the main page or some bastard child variant of whatever Leo or Gant have done. I try to keep my met-cons to the 5 minute range so I am simulating a round in BJJ. I will do longer met-cons but am avoiding any over 20 minutes right now.

If you look at my log and have any questions I would love to answer them. My log is titled Derek's Mass Gain Manifesto and Milestone Log. Gant's workout log is also a phenomenal resource for ideas as he is training in Judo.

Like I said if you see anything that you need clarity on just post or email me and I will help you out.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:03 AM   #6
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My training log is here and I detail out all the stuff I do both weights and BJJ. Currently I am on a hybrid program that is modeled off of Gant's. For met-con I either do what Greg has posted on the main page or some bastard child variant of whatever Leo or Gant have done. I try to keep my met-cons to the 5 minute range so I am simulating a round in BJJ. I will do longer met-cons but am avoiding any over 20 minutes right now.

If you look at my log and have any questions I would love to answer them. My log is titled Derek's Mass Gain Manifesto and Milestone Log. Gant's workout log is also a phenomenal resource for ideas as he is training in Judo.

Like I said if you see anything that you need clarity on just post or email me and I will help you out.
COOL! I'll check it out for sure and fire off any questions. I find interest in what you're up to since I'm a BJJ guy myself and am interested in how different training approaches impact (positively or negatively) one's training results in BJJ.

Thanks again!
David.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:25 PM   #7
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google steve maxwell.

For bjj S&C you cannot go wrong.

tell him melrose sent you.
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