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Old 05-19-2008, 10:21 AM   #21
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It's working fine. No complaints! I have stopped the BCAAs simply due to $$ reasons, as well as only taking my other supplements every other day (a nod to both saving $$ and supplementing "IF-style"). Any specific questions?

If you've seen my training log here, I'm definitely progressing strength-wise and I have no injuries to complain about.
I was thinking about adding in some BCAAs maybe in the morning on an empty stomach and right before my workouts in the later afternoon. I might try the creatine again now that I have everything else under control (It used to make me feel excessively bloated but I wasn't syncing it right with my IF window). I'm thinking about just throwing the BCAAs and the creatine in with the Calm after it's fully dissolved and I've added water...thoughts?

As for your every other day vitamin use....is this everything across the board? Even fish oil?
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:28 AM   #22
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I do take the creatine and Nat. Calm together, when I took the BCAA caps I took them at the same time as well.

Pretty much EOD on supplementary things except liver tabs (I consider these food though, they are part of my "break fast" and are taken for protein purposes), adrenal powder, Natural Calm, creatine, and iodine/selenium/zinc drops. The last three things are all mixed into some herbal tea. Sometimes I do take my CLO daily.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:25 PM   #23
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Garrett do you take a probiotic with your supplements/meals/seperately?
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:37 PM   #24
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Greg,
After doing the Body Ecology Diet and probiotics/cultured foods for so long, I do single pills of the Essential Formulas maybe 1-2 times a month (it can really help with overeating symptoms), other than that I do a swig of TJ's kefir a couple times a week with/after dinner, typically with my CLO since they are both in the fridge.

Basically sporadic "refreshers" of the bacteria down there. I'm sure the occasional raw lamb steaks help in their own way...

I'm going to make a big batch of cultured veggies this holiday weekend, so I'll have those around for a while too.

Since Cori is pregnant, I still have her on the maintenance 2 pills a day of the Essential Formulas plus some kefir...now she's the one telling me she needs me to make the cultured veggies since she heard they were good for the baby (she used to piss and moan when I'd ask her to eat them before).

Oh well. Chalk it up to "proximity bias".
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Old 06-11-2008, 05:10 AM   #25
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All these questions on BCAAs and creatine, and no one asked Garrett what on earth asparagus extract does! I assume it make your pee smell, but there must be some other benefits...
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:38 AM   #26
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Well, besides the fun party trick of smelly pee...

http://chi-health.com/Products/ASPARAGUS.htm

http://leviticus11.com/asparagus.htm

While I don't have this issue, it would be very helpful for those trying to gain weight and having trouble getting enough veggies in their diet due to their bulk. It's a 1/2 pound of organic veggies concentrated into 5 grams of powder (in the tea version). The tea hardly tastes of asparagus at all.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:10 PM   #27
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"It smells like Satan's urine after a hefty dose of asparagus."
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:03 AM   #28
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Here is what Greg reccomends. http://www.performancemenu.com/daily...ily&dailyID=54

I run out and forget to order and end up picking up whatever the GNC has up the street from my house. I really need to order 2 at a time so I am always ahead. Good stuff.
Anyone try this? Is it drinkable? Xtend is too pricey for me. The ON version I had/have is kind of gross.
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Anyone try this? Is it drinkable? Xtend is too pricey for me. The ON version I had/have is kind of gross.
Curious as well. BCAA's do zippo for me but maybe I'm not getting enough?
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:32 PM   #30
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I really want to try the simple leucine and phenylalanine combo that they used on the fasting rats...I'll look up the study unless someone else wants to post the link to the abstract?
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