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Old 03-23-2008, 12:06 AM   #11
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Calm always gives me the runs; I prefer mg glycinate or taurate for max. bowel tolerance.

There is a liquid mag product from Trace Minerals Research I've heard good things about as well.

Right now I do calcimag.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:27 AM   #12
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I found a good price on a New Chapter probiotic called "colon cleanse". The name implies a certain effect.. but looks to me like a good choice for a general probiotic.

Usually I take a few supplements together with a glass of herbal tea in the morning, which is basically ZMA+probiotic. I was wondering if anyone knows if its a bad idea to take these together? ie. i think theyre both meant to be taken on empty stomach but any probs with taking them at same time?
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:21 PM   #13
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Greg,
Some people get quite nauseous, to the point of vomiting, if they take zinc on an empty stomach.

I don't see any problem taking the Zn/Mg/probiotic together.
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:42 PM   #14
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Im with Yael, mag citrate gives me loose bowels if taken on an empty stomach! I thought taking it just with water would simulate real 'mineral water'.
ZMA does not. Perhaps thats good for a 'clean out' occasionally, but not every day...will i become tolerate of it if i continue?

I guess i'll take it with food and see if thats ok, i have 100g of powder i dont wanna throw out.

mg tabs are a pain, you have to take so many tabs for a good dose.
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Old 04-13-2008, 06:49 AM   #15
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Tony,
I've had patients that only "tolerate" 1/2 teaspoon every other day and still find real benefit to that amount. Try taking what you can manage, even if it is a very small dose.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:27 PM   #16
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Based on experience, what's the general consensus when taking Natural Calm? I just received mine today (Raspberry-Lemon.) I've read some good things from here and other places about it so I thought it would be a good try. I'm shooting for a 1/2 teaspoon dose at first to see how I stand and adjust from there...

I spoke with the company today, and they had mentioned that it's best to take it in the evening - some take it in the morning... but in both cases, an empty stomach is preferred...

Still sticking with intermittent fasting (4-5times a week with 2-4 meals in a 6 hour window) and bowel movements have been good daily (no constipation) ever since my initial run many months ago when starting with it - the probiotics helped tremendously - I picked up the one that Dr. G mentioned in the past, "Dr. Ohhira's probiotic 12plus" - never turned back to any other brand since...

I still train on an empty stomach, and usually the only things I have prior to that are the probiotics in the AM upon awakening and some BCAAs before and after I work out.

My main concerns were if the Natural Calm would flush out the probiotics - I take one in the AM and PM respectively, both of which are on an empty stomach - the PM being a few hours after a meal, just before bed -
The other being, has anyone taken a bit both in the AM and PM?

thanks for your thoughts!
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:30 PM   #17
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Stan,
If you get diarrhea from Natural Calm then you are taking too much for your system at once. You can reduce the dose or try taking 2 separated doses as you mention.

I take mine mixed into some hot herbal tea (with some other liquid & powder supps) in the AM. I do a tablespoon a day with no problems.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #18
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cool Dr. G, thanks for the heads up - yeah I'll be starting a 1/2 tsp and work from there - I'd like to definitely try it in the AM as opposed to the PM

Last question I had was about the Stevia used in Natural Calm or Stevia by itself in general - would there be a negative impact "i.e. breaking the fast" if one was adhering to utilizing IF?

Anyways, it was just something I wanted to know - there was an old thread on the crossfit board about stevia and insulin sensitivity/resistance - Robb highlighted some interesting points there too - sorry about going off topic here!

http://board.crossfit.com/showthread...=stevia&page=2 (w/f/s)
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