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Old 03-25-2008, 06:35 PM   #11
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Hey Sarena, "crazy shivers" is what it is! Let me know how the increase in fasting days/hours goes.

Jordan was it warm water and tea that you had? I sip on 1000ml/32oz ACV-water throughout the fast and it makes me feel colder.
Will do! I am not upping the hours though as 15-16 seems just about right for me! I will try to keep it at an average of 6 days a week. I update it all in my blog as well.
You keep me updated as well!
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:37 PM   #12
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Jordan was it warm water and tea that you had? I sip on 1000ml/32oz ACV-water throughout the fast and it makes me feel colder.
It's been green tea in the morning. Sometimes cold left over from the day before, and other times freshly brewed. Throughout the day it's been warm to hot peppermint tea. The water has always been cold.
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:09 AM   #13
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What do you guys do as far as getting sea veggies into your diet...the most i get is from the occasional sushi roll.
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Old 03-26-2008, 03:54 AM   #14
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What do you guys do as far as getting sea veggies into your diet...the most i get is from the occasional sushi roll.
I started using a dulse shaker instead of salt. You can also use gomasio with seaweed or this other seaweed product. In addition, you can add a sheet of wakame or kombu to your stews or soups and I recently made an arame dish that is great and keeps in the fridge for probably a week minimum! I would say these are the easiest options and there aer many companies out there. I just highlighted a few!
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:08 AM   #15
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I'm going to make my seaweed salad again, I'll submit it to the next PMenu...

I love that salad, I need to make it again. It has so much flavor!
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:44 AM   #16
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What's your protein intake on fasting days? Here's my thoughts on it:
- Metabolism is supposedly regulated largely by muscle mass and calories
- Fasting shortens your eating window which in turn leads to less calories
- Protein intake has more effect than fats or carbs on thyroid output and thermogenesis from eating

If you also want to go back to "Paleo" man when he fattened up in the summer to make it through the winter. One would think being cold is not going to be his goal in the winter. Winter intake of food is higher in proteins and fats so I am guessing that lower metabolism was not an issue. (could he have been eating 1-2g/lb bodyweight in protein?)

Take home message, if you are excessively cold that is a sign of metabolism slow down and you should:
- Extend your eating window to get more calories
- Get more protein

I remember that when I was eating at a meat buffet and taking in 200-300grams of protein a day....I never had those issues of cold...lately my protein intake has been lower (although I don't believe overall calorie intake has been) and I have noticed increased sensitivity with hands and feet to coldness.
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:36 PM   #17
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Sarena, that shaker sounds like a great addition, i had never thought of using something like that!
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:37 PM   #18
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Reductions in body temperature are commonly observed with fasting; I blogged a bit about some of the science that exists on this, and the relation between body temperature and longevity. You all might be interested in the data:

http://tinyurl.com/29739y
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Reductions in body temperature are commonly observed with fasting; I blogged a bit about some of the science that exists on this, and the relation between body temperature and longevity. You all might be interested in the data:

http://tinyurl.com/29739y
Very good article Brian! Thanks for the link.
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:43 PM   #20
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Very good article Brian! Thanks for the link.
Yeah, thank you!

Sarena, thanks for the dulse shaker tip! I'll look in the supermarkets for dulse. Yesterday I had salad and a little fish for lunch and didn't feel cold at all in the library. Can't believe that just a little food can make so much difference?!
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