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Old 05-15-2008, 05:25 PM   #11
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lax a couple times a week well be good enough to keep up your metabolic conditioning. so if you really want to work the olifts - here's another vote for the CA wod. i followed it for 4+ months and only stopped b/c i felt i had some glaring weaknesses to attend to - but it's great programming and i think i hit a pr in every lift that comes to mind.

also, if you feel you must add more metcon then lax - greg's metcon's are great - short, tough, but won't leave you wrecked for the next lifting cycle.
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:54 PM   #12
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Rachel the thing is I thought you have plans to be working with an Oly coach, so why dont you speak to him about these questions? Also you will not be able to too much over your practices as you will feel terribly fatigued. And do not forget rest and recovery are key in gaining strength and peaking in all your lifts!
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:51 PM   #13
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lax a couple times a week well be good enough to keep up your metabolic conditioning. so if you really want to work the olifts - here's another vote for the CA wod. i followed it for 4+ months and only stopped b/c i felt i had some glaring weaknesses to attend to - but it's great programming and i think i hit a pr in every lift that comes to mind.

also, if you feel you must add more metcon then lax - greg's metcon's are great - short, tough, but won't leave you wrecked for the next lifting cycle.
yeah that's what I was hoping, that the lax will be enough. i LOVE cf to death, but i probably won't be able to do it on top of OLY and lax.

sarena, my coach is ... i'm not sure if "intimidating" is the right word, but he is. i know his views, have talked to him about it, have heard him say it numerous times: cardio makes you weak. no CF, no running, no cardio if you want to get good at lifting. that's what he says. one of the girls who works out with me (she's REALLY strong) she says she thinks i could do a little bit on the side (CF, lax, etc) but i shouldn't tell sam (my coach) because we all know what he'd say.

so what it really comes down to is what i can handle, because everyone says something different, depending on what their beliefs re:ing fitness are. and i'm still trying to figure that out for myself ...
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:51 AM   #14
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Your coach is right; if you wanna be good at oly you probably shouldn't do much of anything that has an endurance component at all (beyond the little that is needed like PMenu's GPP).
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:34 AM   #15
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Your coach is right; if you wanna be good at oly you probably shouldn't do much of anything that has an endurance component at all (beyond the little that is needed like PMenu's GPP).
Yeah what it really comes down to is a choice. I guess what I want to know is how far I can push it while doing other activities, and at what point will I HAVE to give up everything else. I mean, would it be bad to give up everything else? Would I need to drop blocks on the zone, because I'd be doing less activity? I'm just so not used to the idea of not doing something aerobic/metcon, it's hard to imagine.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:53 AM   #16
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Im gonna stick my nose in here and vote for CA WOD
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:12 AM   #17
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Rachel - if you can - get your coach to email Danny Camargo - his athletes do CF at our place at the beginning of their cycles and then cut it out once competition is coming up.

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If you can't sway your coach to let you do some metcon and can't do some on the side like your friend suggest - then follow Greg E's PerformanceMenu.com workouts!
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:15 AM   #18
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Yeah what it really comes down to is a choice. I guess what I want to know is how far I can push it while doing other activities, and at what point will I HAVE to give up everything else. I mean, would it be bad to give up everything else? Would I need to drop blocks on the zone, because I'd be doing less activity? I'm just so not used to the idea of not doing something aerobic/metcon, it's hard to imagine.
At what point? The sooner the better.

I mean, if you don't want to do it AS your sport you don't have to especially if you don't want to give up your aerobic/metcon. Kinda seems like you already made your choice?
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:41 PM   #19
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O-lift
O-lift + Short GPP
O-lift + Lacrosse (fun, but there's a performance compromise and it sounds like your coach might bite you)
Lacrosse + CF-derivative
CF

Pick your end of the spectrum. O-lifting + lacrosse + CrossFit + 540 aerials is not an option.


Another (expensive) GPP option is Kettlebells. The Russians use 'em. I've already read the beef. Whatever.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:23 PM   #20
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At what point? The sooner the better.

I mean, if you don't want to do it AS your sport you don't have to especially if you don't want to give up your aerobic/metcon. Kinda seems like you already made your choice?
No I haven't, which is the problem. I love the aerobic/CF stuff, but I'll never "go" anywhere with that. I also love o-lifting, and have the potential to go somewhere with that. But do I give up everything I love to pursue the one interest? Or do I just do everything and be mediocre at it? That's the issue and I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure things out.

Leo, I don't think he'll be swayed. He's a pure, 100% o-lifter all around, and I know him too well to try to convince him. But can I email Danny and talk to him?

Ben, as of right now I'm kind of all over the spectrum, just because of the end of school etc. I think once things settle down, i'll be at the o-lifting plus a little lacrosse end of the spectrum, which will hopefully be ok.
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